Edgar Cayce Readings, 136-83

Time and Place: 6:30 P. M. New York City.

TEXT

EC: Yes, we have the body here, [136]. This we have had before. In the physical forces of the body, these are very good in most respects. Rather would there be that in the physical the body may, through care and attention, and the application as has been given, keep the body near physically fit, and thus through same, manifest those conditions, have those experiences as make for the better development of the body, physically, mentally, spiritually.
Ready for questions:
(Q) What causes the faint feeling, the weakness and dizziness at times?
(A) The fatigue of the nervous system, not sufficient of the vitamins. These may, through the conditions as have been given, be kept to near normal. The application of the physical as respecting this is, that the applications for the physical should be in accord with those of that expended in mental and physical activity.
(Q) Is the liver functioning well?
(A) Congestion from the manner in which the eliminations show, are from the weakness in the nervous system; not that the body is in a state of nervous collapse, nor of nerve energy overtaxed, but rather that the expenditures of the physical supersede the rebuilding and replenishing forces of the body too often.
(Q) The body rest more, then? or what should the body do to replenish the vitality?
(A) Systematize the activities so that there is sufficient rest physically and mentally to meet the needs of the conditions as arise. Rest more, but let this be rather more systematized, both as to physical activities, social activities, the mental activities, and the resting physically and mentally. The manipulations for the congestion for the eliminations would be well, were the colonic irrigations once a month at least taken, for this will aid most in the correction of poisons from the system.
(Q) Should this body have a baby at this time?
(A) Best the body be better fitted physically. By October be well, for this would give period for recuperation of the physical and nerve energies of the body, and the reactions would be better for the body, under the better conditions.
(Q) Best not to conceive, then, until October?
(A) September, October, would be better for conception.
(Q) That would bring the birth into April or May, or June?
(A) June would be well. Mental experiences through these correlates of the conditions well were the body those responsible for such a body to take into proper consideration the state, position or the astronomical conditions, see? The periods under this, this irrespective of the application of will's influence by either or both parents, these would be conditions as respecting the periods between that of September 15th and October 20th, the signs astrologically will be with those of Taurus and of those that would bring into the astronomical conditions those of Venus, Jupiter, Mercury, and of Neptune. These make for the greater mental abilities. Those as would come in the period between that of October 5th to November 10th will bring such an influence as to be of those of the voice, musical and artistic talent.
(Q) Is there any restriction to be placed upon [136]'s diet?
(A) Beware of sugars, but let those sugars as are taken be most of fruit and of nuts, and the rest in most of those as bring forth the vibrations of the vegetable kingdom.
(Q) Now, regarding the child. There have been indications, I think, of who, or some who might like, or choose to come through into this environment?
(A) This, to be sure, would be dealing with a different phase of that as has just been given. Then, study same. Make the conformity of the astrological influence with that of wills and desires, influence in the physical, remembering that desire may be of the pure physical, or pure mental, or holy spiritual.
(Q) Now, with regard to recent experiences, both of my own and those about me, (to review a minute), it has been given from here that those who have been changed from physical, leave their impressions subconsciously, or in a subconscious body. Now, there is in then, that body, surviving body, and the ego itself; presumable, then, in these experiences, one may contact either the receding ego, or the ego in dwelling in another environment, or may contact this other astral body that still functions in this sphere. Now, here is where the fraud may come in.
(A) Here is where not so much of that as is ordinarily called fraud, but rather that differentiation of the various experiences of those who are attuned to the various environments of the same; or different entities, in their attempt to manifest through a finite medium, or a finite source, (Not medium in the sense of mediumistic), but a medium, or a channel, see? In the attempt of ones to attune themselves, they may be frauds by the activity of their own imagination, not by intent and purpose, but so controlled by those influences of the earth's experience of an entity as to be misguided, misled by that one phase of an experience, see?
(Q) It remains stored in the earth's portion of what we call subconscious?
(A) No, you are following the wrong lead yet. In an individual all of mediumistic abilities, the ability to attune self to a cosmic influence, (we got that far, see?), then this one, or such a one, may be misdirected, misguided by ones too close to earth's influence, or the materialistic influence, see? That a character; then there may be the ones with the same character of ability to attune themselves to a higher pitch and higher range, just as one may sing basso, another alto, see? In their range, then, such a one may contact the cosmic or etheric ego of an entity, and from such a one gain such a one's impression of the good, various forces as manifest through such channels. Another of the same attunement may attune to the same consciousness, or speak from the same sources, and apparently there may be conflicting information from the same sources. (Now, you see what we are driving at, see?) Now, the variations; not that the source is incorrect, but the variation in the interpretation of that given on account of the variation in one attunement, or in the activity of such a channel, influencing or projecting their own ego, see?
(Q) There are, then, three factors. First, the own ego of the individual providing the channel, then there is the interpretation of that one, of that given by the ego, dependent upon the ability of the channel to receive the correct impression, or those meant to be given by the ego, and then the last, there are those so close to the earth plane that they may either impersonate (this has happened to me) another, or the astral body, its impression left behind, may be contacted.
(A) These three phases, the basis of the interpretation as given, correct. There are many variations, however, to this phenomena, for remember all are attuned to their own vibration in the same manner as has been given that the variations are as that builded in the entity through which such may manifest. That is hard to be understood. Let us illustrate. We have a body, one capable of attuning even to the masters of the holy place, or holy mount, such a one may gain for self an experience that is beyond description in words, only feeling may express same. The same with other vibrations about self being acted upon by variation of vibrations would change same even as that and current of electronic force may be altered by being sent through copper, or through nickel, see? Now you are catching the idea. Study that.
(Q) Now, then, is it possible for an ego itself either receding through what we call Inter-stellar space, or existing on another planet, to so keep in touch or so be aware of little finite details on the earth plane as to guide in detail regarding physical affairs, one whom that ego may choose to guide.
(A) That is correct; this is possible, but the care must be taken by such an one that they be guided in that contact from one receding through stellar space, by the same desire as is made manifest by one so receding, and seeking to aid a loved one, whether psychical character, or of the purport, intent, or friends' character, see? for when one is misdirected, we may find such an example in the seeking of the king to be guided by him, who annoyed him while the desire called up the old man and the answer: "Why Disturbest Thou Me, Know Not There Has Already Been Created Through The Lasciviousness of Desire Earthly, in the Activities, that Destruction is Already Before Thee." Study that, see? [Steno didn't get the name.]
(Q) Is that the name of the one speaking?
(A) That the one spoken of. That entity rests in the bosom of Abraham.
(Q) Now, is it possible for the ego to return to the physical plane again, except through the route of the cradle?
(A) That dependent not only upon the mental and spiritual desire of the ego, but also upon the desire of those who study those impressions that are not effaced in the earth. These made one, may bring into being that of the entity in such a manner as to be made, to be seen, felt, heard, and in such there becomes oft danger unless understood. In this is the psychical as one set in motion those of the spiritual force, as is made manifest in each entity, or so in body; this as it moves from sphere to sphere, seeks its way to the home, to the face of the Creator, the Father, the first cause, the all infusible force as is manifest; as the ties of sphere to sphere recede, then self is lost in that of attaining for itself the nearer and nearer approach that buildeth in manifested form, whether in the Pleiades, Arcturus, Gemini, or in earth, in Arcturus, Vulcan, or in Neptune, and seeks to draw that as is experienced through the sphere, passing, then, ever as light, a ray that does not end, lives on and on, until it becomes one in essence with the source of light. Same as the entity this so moves sphere to sphere. Have you not read of: "Know Ye Not, That Ye Must Be Born of Water and of The Spirit?" The water in material, the Mother of life, the Spirit, the Father, or that moving to bring life. Is it possible, then, that a man when he is old, shall again enter his Mother's womb and be born again? He must be born of water and of blood. Blood, a manifestation of force that through which life manifests in its various forms. Water, the cleansing force as one moves from experience to experience.
Copy to Mr. [900]
Copy to Ass'n office
Copy to Datastician
Copy to Dr. [957]
[GD's note: By Sept. 1930 the final break had begun to take place between [900] and the work of Edgar Cayce. See [900]'s own file for details.
For further details re. [136] see 136-83 Reports.]

REPORTS

9/26/33 Mr. [257]'s letter to EC: "It might interest you to know that [136] left [900], so Mrs. [454] informed me last Saturday. You may use your own judgement as to the cause and results."
10/08/33 Mr. [257]'s letter: "[454] says [136] has become a pest and is drinking like a fish! and she will not see her again. I thought of this because [454] has been so sweet, also [2541] and all others."
2/09/36 Mr. [257]'s letter: "I was served papers by [3734] today, and I guess it is the direct result of my meeting with [900]. He moved to 2 rooms, his boy [142] is out of school, [136] is in ..., La. Their office [900] and [137]'s is a small one of 1 and 1/2 room - they have been hard hit like everyone. He is afraid of [3734], he said. He also said she was mean and would do anything for a dollar. He is stuck proper with property - he wanted to know why I had a suit on the property - I said it was to dissolve the A.N.I. and nothing more."
1/05/52 Mrs. [903]'s letter to HLC: "Xmas day was quiet, cold...we sat around the fire...later [136] and her son [142] joined us until midnight...[136] had dinner with [849], [257] and me, several weeks ago and on Xmas day she brought her son [142]. He is about your height, a stocky build and good looking. At first we liked him, but as the evening wore on he showed a very dogmatic attitude about life in general. It has not been easy and I'm afraid there are scars. Naturally, he was eager to meet all the strange people. [136] proved to be a remarkably resolute person. She went to court for the child [142] - then suffered a nervous breakdown. She then decided to go in for nursing. Everyone tried to discourage her because of the middle thirties but she accepted the challenge and won out. She has been in N.Y. eleven years - ... Pavilion. Goes to work at midnight, markets on her way home in the morning. Cleans house, sleeps all day and then prepares [142]'s dinner when he returns from work. He [142] had one and one-half years in the Navy - spent three years at Univ. of ... and decided to join his mother [136] in N.Y. He is working with a wholesale jewelry house. [136] is anxious to see him married. She is a little thinner than of old, a little hard, a brittle and cynical humor but a straightforward and honest person. She calls us often and is happy to have made the connection again. There is no bitterness - she simply regards [900] as a man who went off balance [GD's note: See 900-233, Par. 7-A, on 5/07/26 warning that this might happen.] and was no longer a responsible person. She declares her glittering N.Y. married life was very foreign to her real nature and never felt comfortable with [900]'s set."
6/02/52 Son [142]'s letter to GD: "My mother [136] and myself have often thought of writing to you in order to obtain our Life Readings. Perhaps it will come as a surprise to you to hear from one of us after so long a time.
"I have just recently been introduced to Mr. [257] and Mrs. [903] through my mother who has resumed old friendships after so long a time. We find ourselves possessed with insatiable curiosity and would indeed like to obtain our Life Readings. It seems that over the years our copies have been misplaced.
"Please let us know what expense this entails. We hope in the future to be able to come to the beach and see you and Hugh Lynn."
6/06/52 GD's letter to [142]: "Your name, without the 'Jr.', I'm sure I must have typed at least a million times. It was indeed a surprise and a pleasure to get your note. Through the years I have often thought of you and your mother [136] and wondered where you were and how you were getting along.
"The copies of your most interesting Life Readings are enclosed [142-1 and 136-1]. I do hope you both will come to Virginia Beach to see us and the work we are doing. You will probably want to read your other readings, also the many references which must have been made to you and [136] in [900]'s readings. I remember that he asked many questions about relationships. Since the readings are not completely indexed, unfortunately those references are not now a part of your individual file - but they will be! It is slow, tedious work - but utterly fascinating.
"I have also wondered about [140] and [143], and if you and your mother have kept in touch with them.
"I'd certainly be interested in hearing what your reaction is to your reading, which was given when you were 20 days old.
"Please give my love to your mother, and do write us again."
7/04/52 Mr. [142] sent a check for the typing of the two Life Readings, without comment.
8/30/53 Mrs. [903]'s letter to HLC: "[136]'s son [142] is at ... Hospital, ..., Tenn., under psychiatric care. He has had three shock treatments because of violence, though the head man, Dr. Orr, had given her [136] a good prognosis for him [142] possibly a 3 month affair. She [136] has just returned after spending two weeks with him. The doctors advised her to leave for the present. She is giving up her nursing job at ... and moving to ..., La. to be with her sister [3816] and nearer [142]. "This is an accumulation of a whole life of conflicts - the thing that set it off, however, was his falling in love with a red-headed Irish girl - divorcee with 8 yr. old child - and husband was a garage mechanic [repeat of situation with his father, [900], and [3734]!]. Sinister, isn't it? Write [136] in care of me."
9/13/53 Miss [243]'s letter to HLC: "About 3 weeks ago tonight the phone rang and who do you think it was? [136] She was here with her son [142] at ... Hospital. It seems he was here working and was taken ill and they called his mother. She [136] was terribly upset about him. From what I understood he had a nervous breakdown. I had lunch with her one day and talked with her every evening for about a week, but I called last about two weeks ago - she had gone. They said they didn't know where. She said to me the last time I talked with her she was waiting a call from her sister [3816], and trying to get her son in a Veterans Hospital down there (La.) - they were so overrun here. I have tried to call about the boy [142] but couldn't get any information. So I don't know whether he is still here or not. I have felt anxious for [136], for she herself was in a very nervous state. She seems to have gone through plenty of grief. I really wanted so much to do something for her. She was so distressed. She kept saying to me that she knew [294] was her guiding star and she knew everything would work out for her in the right way. She certainly thinks a lot of you, Hugh Lynn. She wished so many times you were here to counsel her."
4/09/54 Mr. [900] died, apparently having been out of touch with his ex-wife and son all these years.
7/54 Son [142] spent 2 days at Va. Beach talking with GD and reading his own and his father [900]'s readings. [HLC was out of town.] He said he had decided to make application for preparing himself to be a rabbi. Part of the reason for his trip to Va. Beach was to visit his uncle [137] and to try to get some money from his father's estate, as his father had left everything to his brother [137]. The uncle [137] was rude to him, said his father [900] had put him [142] out of his life, that there was nothing due him [142] from the estate. This seemed to be a crushing blow to [142]; he said he should have gotten in touch with his father years ago, when there might have been a chance to get close to him.
8/54 Mr. [142]'s letter to GD: "Please send me a life reading that is in your opinion the best one available on my mother [136] and my father [900]. I have learned much - there is much more to be learned. With my deepest and fondest affection, I remain, Sincerely yours. P.S. Will write more in detail later."
8/17/54 GD sent him a copy of 900-38 and 136-1, with a personal note.
11/23/54 N.Y. lecture announcement was ret'd marked Address Unknown. HLC later told GD that he had heard from [903] and [257] that [142] had landed back in an institution.
GD's note: The above tragic details are given for the purpose of showing whatever karmic studies can be made of the lives of these three people [900], [136] and [142]. Review their readings, the warnings, the promise indicated in their son before he was born provided the ideals and purposes were held, etc., etc. Who knows but what if [136] had stuck with [900] regardless of his interest in [3734] and apparent off-balance activities, instead of giving way to the urge to "get even" as warned in 136-1, conditions might have turned out differently? As it was she ran away from a condition which she later met in her own son. The son may have turned out differently if he had been in close touch with his father who apparently had much to do with attracting his soul to the earth plane this time.