This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his office, 115 West 35th Street, Virginia Beach, Va., this 17th day of August 1929, in accordance with request made by self Mr. [165].

Present: Edgar Cayce; L. B. Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. [165], Mr. [2467] and Mrs. [1381].

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1. EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [165]. This we have had before. Also that information regarding Health Room and its experimentations, and those that should be associated in same. As has been given, there might be much given as regarding such health lights and health rooms. To begin with, first, as given, the organization of the ones that would carry out the experimentations with same should first be made a fact, and those should include those that are vitally interested in developments of such, both as to mental abilities and physical requirements in each to meet the needs of the various positions [they] each are to fill. First such an one as [165] should head the organization, and such an experimenter as has been given in [3952] and [4995], and such an investigator as in Guy Beckley Stearns, [M.D.] and such ones as may be interested financially and wholeheartedly in that being attempted. In this, then, is the first course to pursue. Then, in the beginning there would be that necessary choosing of place wherein all of the present modes or lights and their efficiency or deficiency are considered. Then there would be the next step in building the room wherein the various effects as may be gained through the application of the various manners of presenting such health rays. As is seen, in some quarters there is the tendency of individuals in the profession that belittle the value of light or sunlight; yet this is not to be even considered in this undertaking - for the effectiveness of the light will demonstrate in itself its value, even as common sense shows the valuation of sunlight to every form of vegetation, from the lowest to the highest. In this preparation, then, BEGIN - and much may be added as is necessary. Ready for questions.
2. (Q) Is the proper Health Room Experimentation procedure to study the effects of all types of vibrations as curative agents?
   (A) Effect of all types of light vibrations, if light vibration is what we are considering! If all TYPES of vibratory forces are being considered - then we would have still another phase entirely! Those of vibratory forces, as are of the lower nature or form, are an entirely different field! Don't confuse them! though there may be oftentimes found that these may be effective used together.
3. (Q) Should our Health Room Laboratory be near a Charity Hospital, if so which one?
   (A) FIRST we would have the experimentations to where we may be very sure we have something to offer even to charity. Then this may be either, as has been given - that some fields or some places have their advantages, also their disadvantages. As we would find, and as has been given, NEW YORK would be the most preferable.
4. (Q) Should Mr. Edgar Cayce go to New York for the meeting of the Holding Company for Health Rooms?
   (A) Not necessarily. Rather that the body-PHYSICAL be considered as a portion of the whole.
5. (Q) Should Mrs. [1381] be Secretary and shareholder in Holding Company for Health Rooms?
   (A) Very good.
6. (Q) What is the proper method of approaching Mr. Silk?
   (A) Through the agencies that have been in accord with the body respecting his OWN business.
7. (Q) How can we discover the proper factory in Pennsylvania?
   (A) This is a different situation. We will find it. There is a factory between Harrington [Del.?] and Warrington [Pa.] that has been considering just this very condition - as is necessary in these formations of different preparations for this character of furniture, see? Now these may be approached through those holdings that have been using products of [165] and [5616] Co. in this community. [9/07/29 See 165-14, Par. 2-A--5-A in re Harrington, or place in Pa.]
8. (Q) On Ash for Mrs. [409] should the vacuum be made lower than the 83% specified until we reach the point where there is considerable condensation on the glass?
   (A) The condensation product is that necessary in this particular case. This has been given, specific, as to how it should be made. These, then, may be worked out in that manner. We would procure FIRST the ordinary arc or Aristo [?] light, see? Eastman Kodak Company product. And from same, use either the glass or the crock, see, cover for same. Place same in a place where that when the light is in process there is only the pure air being consumed for combustion with the carbon - one a solid, the other cored - and the condensation, or the condensing of the ash in GLOBE - not that falls from carbon, but on the globe, glass itself. That to be used, see? ten inch globe; end closest lower socket, not the ash that falls in the lower portion, but that condensed on the sides - effective as to the various forms that this may be used in, as has been given. It may be used in all cases of eczema, nettlerash, hives, or such formations as come from digestive system, or poor eliminations. Taken as internal action. Also as that for the condition itself in skin. May be also used for cases where there is that known as white swelling, first stages of tuberculosis of bone, or those of any PULMONARY nature. These, naturally, are to be differentiated according to the condition as is found existent. Also these will be used with those of the health LIGHTS, as to any condition that has to do with those formations as produce tumors, ulcers, or any formation within the system arising from the vegetative system, or where leakages have occurred in the open body.
9. (Q) Is [5540] the man the body was to find in Richmond, Ind., to aid in supervision of Carolina factory?
   (A) Good!
10. (Q) What is Louis Francis' opinion of [165]?
    (A) Very good.
11. (Q) Is W. Ahlgren of West Field, N.J., the proper man to take charge of finishing of Carolina Wood Products?
    (A) Now, many things are to be considered in this line, or in line with the changes that would come about by such an one taking such a proposition. Efficient, and under DIRECTION of [5540], yes. Under others, no.
12. (Q) Is it best to hold Sears-Roebuck Stock? Macy? Irving Trust of N.Y.?
    (A) Macy will always be good above 200, or at 200, or just above, to hold - for we will find this will, in the years, double itself. Best that this be not too speculative, but rather as a holding, or as interest. Sears-Roebuck presents, whenever below 46, a profit - whether as speculative or holding. At the present conditions, and the present rating - or as HAS been the present rating in the days business, we would find Sears-Roebuck for a quick change DOWNWARD - but not for long. As for Irving Trust Company, not so good - for there are some - well, these are best not to be spoken of. Inside conditions that are existent.
13. (Q) What is the detail of Louis Francis' thinking regarding [165]?
    (A) Efficient and active. In the degrees, that there has not been proper consideration on the part of [165] of the man's mental abilities; for while the abilities in factory WELL, the reasoning abilities have not been considered properly. Yet these on the part of Francis will be handled properly when the proper conditions are set in motion.
14. (Q) Can [165] help [2467] in his patent?
    (A) When the time comes - but it's not the time yet!
15. (Q) Any other information you would give at this time?
    (A) Now, there's plenty to be given - but we would rest at present. We are through.

    Copy to Self
    Copy to Ass'n office
    Copy to Datastician
    Copy to Mrs. [1381]

BACKGROUND

1. 8/10/29 He obtained Business reading, 165-11.
2. 8/17/29 He submitted further questions via Mrs. [1381].

REPORTS

1. 8/17/29 P.M. See 900-448, for which Mr. [165] was present, interpreting experiences of Mr. [195] and Mr. [900] in re health rooms.
2. 8/24/29 He obtained Business reading, 165-13, in re Health Rooms, etc.
3. 8/31/29 EC wrote: "...I just don't understand why you are unable to get the ash. Of course, that we have on hand is not what is to be used internally at all. That necessary is rather the combustion of the air WITH the ash from carbon. I know very well how this was made the first time I ever saw it, or the first time I ever used it, or the first time it was given in a reading many, many years ago.* Possibly we can get together sometime and work this out a little better. This little lady here, [409], though is getting very anxious - she has been at the hospital many weeks. If we had only a very small quantity, it would be very helpful. We will have to see if we cannot devise some other means, or something to be used until we are able to get this going..."
4. 9/07/29 See 165-14 answering further questions on the ash.
   * [9/25/84 GD's note: I think he is referring here to a reading in Hopkinsville in the early days, of which there was no copy. The earliest reference we have on file to the carbon or animated ash is the 3857-2 on 3/22/28 which started Mr. [165]'s research and manufacturing of the Ash. Evidently Mr. [165] was having difficulty in getting a sufficient amount made to supply Mrs. [409] at that point. He did continue supplying it to her and many others in the following years.]

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