(Q) Advise me how to proceed with the Brooklyn Cooperage
Co., thru its Vice-President, H. C. Schmidt, to make a deal
to build beer barrels?
(A) This, as we find, may be at cross-purposes with that
which would be for the best interests of the body, as related
to the future associations and relations, unless it (the
deal) includes that proposition which has been made through
the refining company (Sugar Refining Co.). In this matter,
then, if it is to be made a portion of the deal - or if it
is able to be made a portion of the deal - while it would
require a little longer period in making the deliveries,
yet - it would facilitate those associations and connections
for the further activities of the body, in a much more
satisfactory way and manner.
If this immediate deal is necessary, for the handling of the
immediate situation, the necessary lumber may be obtained
from Nahon & Company, who are dealers - and furniture dealers
- that have had, do have, the character of lumber necessary
for the present needs (These are Brooklyn also, or Brooklyn
office).
(Q) What kind of a deal should it be?
(A) This depends upon whether the desire on the part of
[
257] is for the immediate (and then be through) or for a
continued association and connection, where there will be
a supply that will be necessary to be a continuous thing -
as in the supplying of any well regulated organization of
this kind or nature.
Then, if it is to be for the immediate, carry on through
with that with Schmidt.
If it is to be one where it will be considered a continuous
association and connection, and the body acting in the
capacity of the delivery agent - then be sure that the deal
includes the sugar company - American Sugar Company.
(Q) On what basis should I work?
(A) Just as given. Agent.
(Q) Where should Gen. McRoberts fit in the picture?
(A) Financing.
(Q) Where should Ed Whalen of Tromer's Brewery fit in the
picture?
(A) In the sales end. Contacts.
(Q) Where can I buy oak quick?
(A) As given, if for one immediate order - that is
considered in the present - it can be obtained from Nahon.
If it is to be for continued activities, either from the
Baltimore concerns, or Mengel in Louisville, or the larger
timbers in the raw may be obtained in Carolinas. (For the
last, contact Mr. [
853], ..., N.C.) [See
853-3 on
9/01/32,
Par. 4-A--9-A, &
264-32, 15-A--18-A on
4/09/33.]
(Q) Which plant will be best of Brooklyn Cooperage to build
barrels?
(A) Number three.
(Q) Should I proceed to plan entering the field to
manufacture beer barrels?
(A) We are going at cross-purposes again in our questions,
or going backwards. You are planning to be in it, and then
ask if you should be in it!
This is as considered, and as we have given. ANY activity
in this particular field at the present time offers
exceptional opportunities for those that may be situated in
the associations or connections of supplying materials in
this particular line of activity.
If the associations and connections, then, lend themselves
to such an operation, well to enter - or to consider same.
(Q) Is Philadelphia and Asheville as good as Brooklyn for
building barrels?
(A) Brooklyn offers the better, though - if there are the
associations with the sugar company, as we find - it would
open the Asheville works.
(Q) What is best plan to accept working with Dunn
manufacturers, Soper & his money interests, Allen & Co.
with Adelson, or with American Sugar Refining Co.?
(A) As given. Any should include the sugar company.
(Q) Is American wood as good as Russian or Polish, and will
it be as satisfactory?
(A) Properly prepared, just as good. And it would be, then,
necessary - in preparing same - that it be of the character
of the white and red oak, or white and water oak, that is
seasoned not only by the natural means but that includes the
special preparations that insure the seasoning in the manner
that protects it.
(Q) Will I be able to close contract on Polish barrels with
Lande and Flaherty, as arranged at meeting Tuesday morning
in room 1449, Taft Hotel, N.Y.C., with Mr. [
426]? [See
426-3
on
10/31/33.]
(A) Well to consider, but - as we find - the American
product may be worked to a much more advantageous standpoint
than that necessary requirement in the exchange and the
imports on such an association.
Well that the connection be made, if there is to be the
general entering into the fields that these may be supplied,
in either case, or when demanded.
(Q) Can [
426] of Poland be relied upon to fulfil?
(A) To his own capacities, but these don't go too far!
(Q) Reference [
257] - Gilbert attempt to work out financial
settlement plan, will they be able to carry it out and as
now laid out by Gilbert?
(A) This, to be sure, offers some very hard problems. As to
whether or not it will be possible to carry it out depends a
great deal upon the TEMPERAMENT of individuals, and as to
whether there can be a forced issue or not.
As we find, this MAY be carried out; but there will at least
be another consideration to be included before it may be
closed.
(Q) What consideration will that be?
(A) More concessions on the part of [
257].
(Q) Considering new endeavors and advice of McRoberts, am
I following best plan to suffer & work out financial plan,
or take lawyer's advice of last week and end it as Forces
originally advised?
(A) There has been given this whole consideration, that
unless there can be worked out those plans whereby this
gives the body the opportunity to work it out without being
continually hounded - and carrying on in such a manner as to
prevent the whole activity being open and aboveboard, it
would be better that it be carried as we have given.
(Q) What will be the best deal to work out with Richard
Ratner?
(A) This depends upon what is to be gained by the varied
concessions that are made by [
257] in the deal. This has
been gone over before.
(Q) Reference Washington and the water cooler contract,
which was to come thru Friday or Monday 3 wks. ago, what
deferred it?
(A) As given, first there was a social engagement that
deferred the activities in this direction. In this social
connection there has come about a condition that will prevent
the whole amount being carried through. But about a third of
the amount may be expected to be placed before the 15th,
unless there are decided changes from those things that are
being CONSIDERED in the present - and these are possible,
but it has been ordered that way!
(Q) See why Col. Hammond hesitates and advise me as to my
immediate move to see it thru.
(A) It has been given why and how, and what is the quantity
that has been ordered to be distributed, or ordered placed
through Lewis channel.
(Q) Is there any reason for me to worry about its not being
awarded to me?
(A) About a third of it will be.
(Q) As to the housing contracts for $750,000, under Gen.
Basch, will Hoefer & Lewis be able to consummate this deal?
(A) As we find, these are being SERIOUSLY considered. As
to whether it is to reach the point of its becoming a
bonified order or not has not been determined, for there is
still the attempt of the wood to be substituted rather than
the metal.
(Q) How long will it take?
(A) Be about the 15th of September.
(Q) Any changes for me to make in the plans, to have them
accepted?
(A) It has been outlined as to the character, the kind, the
manner, the way these should be presented - and what portions
of the country would be most acceptable for these operations.
(Q) What aid can Ellis Soper of 17 E. 45th St., N.Y.C., lend
to me in these construction propositions?
(A) Very little.
(Q) Where best to build houses before shipping?
(A) In the plants where they may be constructed in the
proper way and manner!
(Q) What step should I have [
1565] to take to get a big
share of refrigerator business after the market, which he is
now conducting at the Pennsylvania Hotel in N.Y.C.?
(A) The regular plan that has already laid out is the most
plausible and most feasible plan for getting the share, or
getting the PROPER share, of this particular business.
(Q) Am I handling my business affairs in a way approved by
the Forces to gain the necessary material gains needed for
my immediate requirements?
(A) Very good; save at times you have been running over
self, running around in circles, confusing the orders in some
directions. As in the beer barrels, these have made a
confusion before there is any DEFINITE plan; and it is giving
others an opportunity to work in on the same character of
deals. Otherwise, very good.
(Q) What improvement is recommended for the month of August?
(A) The PLANS are very good for the month of August. Work
the PLANS!
(Q) Which plan best to follow the closest for quickest
returns?
(A) The immediate order in the barrels.
(Q) What is the proper way to further conduct negotiations
started with Stewart-Warner on "Harris Color"?
(A) This, as we find, is a farther-reaching proposition and
association that may appear on the surface. At first glance
there seems little to be gained over the techni-chrome color
by the Harris plan, yet - as it develops - this will show
that the Harris process is nearer to that which makes the
natural colors in process under Kleig lights, or artificial
lighting, than is possible to be made under the
techni-chrome color.
In carrying out with the Stewart-Warner, as we find, this is
very well; yet they are hardly the PROPER ones for the full
consideration of such a far-reaching proposition. And to
include in same the operative forces of those associated in
the larger organizations in the technical departments of
producers would be more in line with carrying same out, see?
There is a big proposition! It's the biggest [
257] ever had
hold of! This would mean a billion, where others have meant
a million!
(Q) Should [
257] try to work on such a thing while so
harassed?
(A) It's too big to turn loose, yet it may not be possible
to hold it - because it is so big!
(Q) Will I be able to sell the plan & proposition thru Carl
Mason as laid out?
(A) Carl Mason isn't big enough!
(Q) Who in Stewart-Warner is?
(A) That's as we have given! Stewart-Warner itself isn't
big enough! because they do not own it; they control an
interest, and are NOT capable - in their technical
departments - to carry it to its best proposition!
(Q) Will the Forces give an organization that [
257] can go
through?
(A) It's just been given! ANY of the TECHNICAL departments
of the LARGER PRODUCERS!
(Q) When will my affairs be in such shape financially that
I can take a 3 wks. rest?
(A) When you sell the kegs!
(Q) Gen. McRoberts suggests that I not push suit against
Grove to recover a settlement for Paris Medicine commissions.
What should my attitude be?
(A) As given, work rather in line with the channel through
whom the proposition was presented first - SEELY!
(Q) Seely also advises not to push it.
(A) No, he doesn't!
(Q) Should I approach Ralph Jonas on the brewery
proposition, or on the housing situation, as suggested by
Jerry Jonas his cousin?
(A) Do not run around in rings. It has just been given
McRoberts on one proposition! Then, don't try to use others
who are cross-fires with same!
He may be used in housing proposition.
(Q) What should be my attitude to Fred Seely?
(A) As just given. In line with that which will be for
the best interests of all concerned. For, they can work
TOGETHER. Do not make 'em cross-fires!
(Q) How should I handle situation on Ross plan of housing,
with Johns-Manville group, whom I am soon to meet?
(A) This makes nearer the same proposition, and is being
considered in some quarters on housing propositions; for this
is BOTH wood and metal. And it's to be SERIOUSLY considered,
IF there is the opening for the SUPPLYING OF these houses in
ANY of the directions; and it does not hinder from being in
the position to supply the metal or those that may be
constructed through the association with Manville.
We are through for the present.
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BACKGROUND
7/25/33 He obtained
257-114.
8/01/33 He submitted further questions.
REPORTS
8/04/33 He referred
383-1.
8/07/33 He obtained
257-116.
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