This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Va. Beach, Va., this 2nd day of September, 1933, in accordance with request made by self - Mr. [257], Active Member of the Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.

Present: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. [257] and wife [903], and L. B. Cayce.

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1. GC: You will have before you the body and enquiring mind of [257], present in this room, who seeks information, advice and guidance as to his various problems. You will answer the questions which he submits, as I ask them:
2. EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [257]; this we have had before, and those conditions, circumstances and problems that confront the body at this time.
3. Ready for questions.
4. (Q) Regarding the newspaper account [8/31/33 (?) N.Y. Times] of outcome and version of [3734] vs. [257] suit, a copy of which I hold in my hand, also conditions surrounding the case, my affairs and associations with LeRoy Mandel and Judge Frankenthaler: Please advise me what will be final outcome, or what I can do now to overcome the fine, or to combat the publicity - if it is not favorable.
   (A) The only recourse, as we find, is that there may be the obtaining of a reversal of the order given by the Judge. Or, there may be the paying of the fine and then the re-opening of the order.
5. (Q) What shall we do to combat the publicity?
   (A) Settle it in one way or the other.
6. (Q) Will the newspapers give the same position to the rebuttal?
   (A) May be sought and be obtained, as this was sought to be obtained to give the opening of the conditions.
7. (Q) Who sought the newspapers to publish this?
   (A) The [3734] interests.
8. (Q) Should Jack Gilbert make the statement to the papers, or what other lawyer?
   (A) Whatever lawyer that handles the whole situation.
9. (Q) Is this publicity unfavorable to [257] throughout the country?
   (A) More as a joke.
10. (Q) Should I make an effort to explain it to the business interests with whom I am working?
    (A) Only when it's sought.
11. (Q) Is there any further influence we should use before the Judge?
    (A) Only those that have already been opened.
12. (Q) Should I permit Nicholas Gordon to see Justice Ford, the referee, who will see Justice Levy, or leave affair as it is between Lande, DeLacy and Lipman?
    (A) As we find, it would be better left as it is - and let these work it out through those various channels in which they are approaching.
13. (Q) Will Judge continue fine after hearing on Tuesday?
    (A) That depends upon the manner in which it is presented. As we find, it would be reversed. If not, it would be well that the fine be paid and then to go on for the re-opening.
14. (Q) Which lawyer of the group is best to talk to before the Judge?
    (A) Lande.
15. (Q) Should the fine be paid before [257] returns to N.Y.?
    (A) That depends upon the word of the Judge to Lande when presented. If not favorable, then pay it before returning to New York.
16. (Q) Will Judge Ford be favorable in reference the other stocks?
    (A) As it is at present set, he will.
17. (Q) Please discuss my ability to carry on under this strain, and what to do for next seven days for my best health.
    (A) Rest as much as possible, and think as little as possible on those conditions that disturb the body, by filling the whole active forces of the body, with those conditions and surroundings that would bring the better mental activities of the body.
    Those conditions that have been set in motion, these are either of efficient activity or inefficient; and hence should be left in those hands, else the body must certainly suffer under the strain.
18. (Q) In what capacity should Jack Gilbert come into the case at this time?
    (A) Rather as the advisor in the various associations and endeavors that have been made on the part of the body, and the various activities on both sides in which the body has been engaged. Acting, then, as an advisor; or advisor with these that handle the situation.
19. (Q) Is there enough to justify a damage suit against [3734] group for making false claims that [257] has attempted to hide $500,000?
    (A) This can best be determined by the attitude that the Judge will [in Ky. Estates] take in the presenting of the actual situation. Should the Judge reverse, then there would be sufficient grounds for defamation.
20. (Q) Would that be inclusive of the [[900] & [137]] brothers?
    (A) From that presented, these do not enter in. When such a thing would be presented, they would become naturally a portion of the whole situation.
21. (Q) How can Dori Hirschmann [Ira A. Hirschmann?] be of assistance?
    (A) Only as an advisor.
22. (Q) Would he be useful if the newspapers are to be touched?
    (A) This depends upon the direction in which it would go.
23. (Q) Will this injure my chances to make final deal with the sugar company on barrels?
    (A) Not unless there's a great deal more brought out than has already been presented. For, this presented has already been forgotten by those interests.
24. (Q) Should I bring it up to Mr. Bartlette of the sugar company in any way, unless he brings it up?
    (A) Should not! Not mention it, even! Do not attempt to lead away from any conversation that might lead in that direction, but do not present it of self!
25. (Q) When should I return to N.Y.?
    (A) After there has been the decision by the Judge, which - as we find - will not be before Wednesday or Thursday.
26. (Q) When should my family plan to return to N.Y.?
    (A) By the end of week, or the first of the next.
27. (Q) What will be the next move of Mandel and Levin for [3734]?
    (A) That depends upon, of course, the action of the Judge in the case. Then, should the fine be paid, there will - of course - be those attempts to sustain, that these will show, or will be shown that there was the attempt to hide or to keep out of the records the actual situations.
28. (Q) Since all the publicity, would it not be better to forget about the settling of claims and go into full bankruptcy?
    (A) As we have given, this would have been better some weeks ago!
29. (Q) Considering my new interests, is it still better to go into bankruptcy?
    (A) As we find, it would be - after the decision of this present situation on the $250 fine, see? With the situation hanging as it is, such activity would justify the making of claims on the part of those who have made the statements, and there would be the attempt to use this in all the claims set up! After this has been settled, either by the payment or by the reversing (which is most apt to be), then, as we find - unless, as has been stated, there is an equitable agreement reached, even in the face of all the conditions (which would be soon forgotten), it would be better to clear all out; for, of course, there are many others besides this that must sooner or later come to the head! For the activity of bankruptcy in the present situation does not hinder the body from going to each and every individual that may be classed on the preferred list, after the filing of the papers, and making the statement or agreeing to do whatever is chosen to do by the body respecting each situation; but would clear out all other conditions and leave to the court itself for the settling.
30. (Q) In the event of bankruptcy, should I turn over the [900] claim, even though it does not belong to me, but the Ky. Estates, that would avoid criticism?
    (A) This would make more criticism, as it stands in the present! Hence must be settled in the present situation before it may be claimed. If it's determined by the court, then turn it over! If it's determined by the court that it is not the property of [257], he couldn't turn it over!
31. (Q) How would Gen. McRoberts and Justice Brandics feel about the situation if the Judge's decision is favorable and I go into bankruptcy?
    (A) Judge's decision is favorable, and the situations are all in the same way of being harassed by the activities of not only these but the others that, too, may arise; they are equitable - they understand the situation. Would soon pass!
32. (Q) Which of my attorneys would give [3734] and [900] the fight they deserve for all they've done against the [EC] Work and me personally?
    (A) Lande. Slow, but much surer.
33. (Q) How does the news affect my Canadian friends, or have they heard of it yet?
    (A) Wouldn't affect if they heard! As given, it is looked on rather as a joke.
34. (Q) The meeting to be held by Mr. Bartlette with Mr. Abbott and Board of Directors of Sugar Co. next week, as to having [257] handle sale of barrels, has [257] given sufficient information and references to close the deal? Discuss what is set to happen, what I should do, etc.?
    (A) To be sure, the conditions that exist in the present must have some effect upon the situation. As to that presented, this is sufficient. And the word of some of the Board that are close friends of [257]'s will be more accepted than all the data presented. As the situation also exists, had there been the clearing of all these, there would be little to be said as to [257] being made the one to handle the situation all the way through. This may hold up the situation in part for the time being, but with the connections and associations that exist with various members of the board direct and indirect as we find, this will gradually work into a most satisfactory association and connection.
35. (Q) Will [257] be perfectly safe with just a sales agency?
    (A) This is what we have given that he should have, and all that he should have at the present time! Making promises that such and such may be handled, except as agent, or assuming obligations, would defeat the very conditions which he has had to combat? All such was taken into consideration in the advice that was given in making the association and connection! That he would not be able to act in any capacity except as agent, until all these were settled! without incriminating self in one direction or another!
36. (Q) Under what title would he operate, considering present conditions?
    (A) Agent! Don't lose the advantages of the name, of the association or connection, because one sets himself or operates as an agent! for whatever activities that may be set under the name of agent doesn't change the prima facie conditions as to those who have faith and confidence, but does protect the body from those attempts on the part of others to make for him troubles in the direction of activities that have been in the past.
37. (Q) Will Geo. Tromer come thru with his promise to deliver 26 brewery orders for barrels, for about $75,000?
    (A) Eventually, yes. These will come in part, as has been set along.
38. (Q) What discussion should ensue between [257] and Abbott?
    (A) As the situation is set, as we find, it is this: When the meetings have been set in order, and those that are to ensue between [257] and Abbott, it will be Abbott seeking from [257] those activities, see? As well as [257]'s giving the abilities, associations and connections for the activities in his end or direction. Hence they would be, as it were, rather than [257] seeking favor from Abbott, see - it will be Abbott as WITH [257] seeking to carry out that which would be determined by the meetings in the other connections, see? Consequently, it will make for the ability to meet on more common ground, and more activity in a regular order of associations and connections.
39. (Q) How will it affect the Truscon situation, if any?
    (A) As given, let these be understood - that they are NOT to affect any situations which may be stated in word before, in paper after - or when it's filed. THEN these will have little or no conditions to meet!
40. (Q) Should [257] continue negotiations with Bertram Krauss who owns a factory that would build barrels, while awaiting decision of sugar co?
    (A) We would work - some of the same interests who are with the sugar company in this. It's very well to carry on, but not make too definite statements or promises or infringe upon the activities of self in association with others. Or be in the position where it would be tied up in any way.
41. (Q) Then, what should [257]'s attitude be under the circumstances, in his next meeting with Bartlette?
    (A) Some decisions should be arrived at by the time of the next meeting with [257], on the part of Bartlette and associations, as to what the connections or associations are to be; and it will be something of the same situation with [257] as with others; that there will be questions, of course, to be answered by [257], as to the abilities, as to the data that has been presented. But these will be on a more common basis.
42. (Q) Should [257] be very optimistic in this meeting or just normal?
    (A) Inclined to be optimistic, but not too much so - to be sure.
43. (Q) Should the whiskey barrel situation be discussed optimistically?
    (A) Optimistically.
44. (Q) Will [257] be as happy and successful and as satisfied with the barrel business as he was with the radio cabinet business?
    (A) He will, after it has been set; or, as we find, after the latter part of October or November conditions will be more settled, provided there are ends and activities carried on out. The situation then sums itself up as this: First there must be the attempt on the part of [257] to, as near as possible, remain quiet until those activities in the immediate situation have been decided. Then meet that situation, before returning to New York, in however manner it is set! whether for the carrying on of a suit for defamation, for the payment of the fine, or for the reversal and the meeting of same. Then, when these have been settled, draw in those lines - as has been the meeting in the various situations (the attorneys that have been representing the various situations) and determine as to whether this is the best to clear these out. Then do so, which will require a period, of course, of rest of activities on the part of [257] - ten days or two weeks. Then work like thunder, and you'll be happy!
45. We are through for the present.

    Three copies to Self
    Copy to File

BACKGROUND

1. 8/30/33 He obtained 257-119.
2. 9/02/33 He was present, submitting questions.

REPORTS

1. 9/04/33 He referred 400-1.
2. 9/08/33 He obtained 257-121.

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