(Q) In what way, so far, has his ego prevented the
proposition from progressing to the point that his will
desires it to reach?
(A) It has not! The warnings that have been given were not
to allow the anxiety, the desire, to make for the allowing of
improper or unseeming promises, or for the depending upon
purely material things for gain - without the proper
consideration of all phases of life.
Here: In the experiences of those in a material world where
financial gain is had, where fame to an extent is given to
individuals, it is oft seen that they are not at peace with
themselves, with their fellows or with their God. There may
not be outwardly in the individual experience failures
financially, or other than a whitewashing of the mental
individual activity, yet there is oft seen in such households
that which has been expressed in this manner: "Yes, their
money is needed to care for that afflicted one, that
disconcerted one in their midst."
God is not mocked; whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he
also reap.
And, as has been given [
257] oft, too gracious, too
beautiful, too sincere has been and is the INNATE desire of
this entity to be spoiled by the desire of material gain or
fame at this time.
Hence the warnings - Know, O Israel, the Lord thy God is ONE!
If each soul would understand what that means, he may pattern
his life, his associations, his dealings with his fellow man,
in such a way and manner as to make not only harmony and
peace within his own home, his own mind, but all who contact
the body-entity will know same for the beauty of his dealings
with his fellow man in every way and manner.
Man should learn - [
257] should learn - it is God that giveth
the increase. Man as he labors, as has been given of old, is
worthy of his hire. To take advantage, then, of an employee
because of circumstance, because of surroundings - or for the
employee to take advantage of the employer because of any
condition that arises - must be met in the experience of them
all.
For it is the law; and the law shall not pass away until it
is fulfilled to every whit and every tittle in the
experiences of each individual!
Hence the warnings given, that there be the building within
self of that as would be not merely an axiom but as a living
experience.
For the Lord thy God is a living God. Man's soul, man's
activity, is a living experience. Begin to build
constructively in the beginning, if you would have the
success in all phases of the endeavor.
(Q) In what way could the activities of the body [
257] and
associates in relation to the factory be evil?
(A) These questions are out of line with what was meant.
This has just been given. To do wrong never will make good
come of it, though it may make money and means and false
promises may induce; but the end thereof is DEATH! Death not
only to a successful business, death to the better self,
death to all the influences and forces. For how has it been
reckoned? Good is like a leaven that eventually leaveneth
the whole lump. How is evil? Usually smeared on as some
kinds of paints that cover and yet - How did He put it? - are
as a whitened sepulchre, beautiful to look at but inwardly
full of dead men's bones! So are the relationships with
individuals. You cannot whitewash that which is in import
and intent evil and have good come from same.
(Q) If [
165] placed in charge of laboratory and finish -
Gilbert in charge of coordinating of departments as well as
comptroller - Kiefer in charge as superintendent of
construction - with [
257] in charge of sales plus advisory to
the other three, would the factory proposition then be able
to function on an ethical, profitable and proper spiritual
development with material gain?
(A) This has been given. This has been given before, that
these were - and let each know, but let each have the basic
principle.
In the activities of selling below that in which it would be
produced or could be produced, would that make for success?
or if the finishing or the construction would be neglected
here or there, that's not in keeping with that which has been
promised, would it lend for that which is to be a
constructive or building or a rightful program? No.
All cooperating as one with another, they each in their own
sphere filling, fulfilling that purpose whereunto the whole
association or organization was brought into being. Is it
brought into being to undersell or to equal or to be a little
better than another product, at a little better figure? But
if it is to be done by imposition upon any portion of the
service, then it cannot succeed. But all in one - as God is
One.
It is not idealistic, it is what and is as the world is
(gradually, to be true) coming to know must be - if the life,
the purpose of each and every soul is to make a mental and
material and spiritual success - cooperation, coordination of
all factors in a purpose for service - and the increase and
the surplus is the gift of appreciation as is the law.
(Q) Assuming that the proper and necessary background for
success has been advised and all are willing to follow it,
what is the best avenue for [
257] to use in raising the
required capital to buy and operate the factory?
(A) Through the channels that have already been set in
motion and through those very things that have been promised
already, if they are all kept coordinant. They have already
been set in motion; keep them coordinant.
(Q) The following people in their spheres are attempting to
furnish the money merely from the material standpoint, of
investment for gain:
(A) (Interrupting) Use that which has already been
promised. This is coming through, it's in more than one of
these but it is coming through! But do not make any promises
- as has been the warning - that cannot, that are not in
keeping with that policy that has been indicated, that is
necessary for perfect coordination throughout.
(Q) We request reasons and guidance for the ones selected.
(A) That each may have the opportunity for joining in a
service that may be made as a criterion for others that would
take lessons from same. It's an opportunity, then, for all.
(Q) Next step with John Paul to develop interest of
Rosenwald in factory.
(A) It is necessary to follow those things that have been
set in motion, that there are to be in keeping with the
policies that are to be at once taken.
(Q) If there is a better channel which we have not touched,
will the Forces please suggest it and advise how to proceed?
(A) Use that thou hast in hand, then when these are used or
applied others are shown thee.
(Q) Mayor Hettrick [Clarence Hettrick, Mayor of Asbury Park]
desires the [
257] associates to consider the Lycoming factory
at Muncy, Pa., offices in Montgomery, Pa., for a rental
proposition for one year while Chichester is being developed.
What suggestion on this?
(A) This would become rather expensive, but if it is in
keeping with the circumstances as for the policies, the
orders, the conditions - very well.
The judgements as to such matters must be made by those that
direct same, rather than from these sources. All phases are
to be considered, and all departments; the ability for sales
and the sales in sight; the abilities for activities and
carrying on all of the research necessary for the developing
of the whole situation.
(Q) E. A. Thompson - 142 East 59th St., N.Y. City, consulted
[
257] reference association with the Alden Corporation plant
at Asheville, N.C. Please advise reference this situation.
(A) We would not trust Thompson.
(Q) Please explain what figures of sales and profits should
be presented to the various groups.
(A) This must be in keeping - not from here, but - with the
abilities of each individual to figure with [
257] on the
outlook, whether it is prospective, whether it is assured,
whether it is merely that as a possibility, and all the
figures then based upon that as may be reasonably considered
as correct.
Let's consider the situations that have existed, for a
moment. These are known to all these concerned here, and are
merely drawn to make a more awareness of the situations being
presented:
What, who and where have been the customers that would
justify such a group considering building a plant for the
manufacture of such goods? These are known as those channels
through which Radio Cabinets have been distributed by [
257].
What has been the fault in the various conditions that have
arisen? Bad finish, faulty in some of the activities, too
small a price; and such things have brought about
contentions. Now: There has been a certain quantity,
there is demanded certain quality in those channels that are
open or accessible to [
257] as the salesman. Now the
warning has been given [
257] - don't confuse these, please -
that there are associations that could and would build these
cabinets if they were considered properly. If [
257]
considers, though, that having the own factory all of the
varied elements that have entered into his dissension,
confusion and disturbance, can be ironed out by the own
organization and still do justice and right to every ONE,
then follow same! But each one, each head of each phase
must take all of these things into consideration before they
BEGIN - and know that they can do justice to themselves,
their ideals, their purposes; and it is upon such that
figures may be drawn to present those from whom funds may be
obtained to carry on.
Why not obtain quantities of same from the very ones TO WHOM
THE MATERIAL IS TO BE SOLD?
(Q) In showing the pitfalls to the associates, does that
mean that they should not consider owning or controlling the
plant but just handling the sales or using the factory on a
rental basis?
(A) In showing the pitfalls is meant that being forewarned
is being forearmed, and if there are the correct abilities,
if there is the ability of each head to make for corrective
principles that will meet each one of these, why should they
not own, why should they not control, why should they not
direct? On the basis of others that was given that there
were associates and connections that would do so for [
257],
if they were set in a different order! Don't confuse these,
please!
(Q) Are there any changes in any part of the country that
would cause a large furniture factory to take radio cabinet
business from such companies as the General Electric Co. on a
commission basis and yet bring profit to the associates as to
commissions? Or is it necessary for the group to have a
factory over which they have complete control of the supply?
(A) And that's why they should be, if it is possible, a part
of the factory!
This may be an eventual development. [
257] has experienced
this in some associations; that factories have gone in and
taken commissions rather than paying same to the man (or
[
257]) acting as the intermediator or for the bringing of the
factory and the user (or the General Electric) together.
Now: If there is the assurance from the group that the users
of cabinets are interested in, or a part of, or are so
convinced that the organization can produce - and the
organization CAN produce if fitted for it - then why not make
it successful?
(Q) Are conditions of the country now such that Labor will
become stabilized on a working basis with Capital to advise
the owning of a factory to be operated by this group?
(A) Principles must carry through to the laboring man,
whether it is the one that is selling the log, or the man
that is the rough finisher, or he that sweeps up the
floor! Don't think that the man at the top can take it
off of or out of the lives of the laborers and get away
with it! He can't!
Conditions are such that when honesty is carried through, it
is in the position to coordinate and cooperate all the way
through. THAT is the CRY of the country. It is the need of
ALL business!
We are through for the present.
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BACKGROUND
4/07/37 He obtained
257-181.
5/04/37 He submitted further questions.
REPORTS
5/13/37 He wrote: "Well, my rdg. awaited me. I think this
is really one of the best and most helpful I've had in yrs.
I did not understand the one before [
257-181] - I felt it had
me wrong, as I had no evil intent - yet with the warnings in
the second one [257-182] and the guidance, I now understand
the first one better. Tomorrow we have a meeting and I feel
we shall bring the factory to a head and be ready to go to
work. I am ready to visit and sit down as soon as I get the
o.k. and the cash - it's never been scarcer with me in years,
or more necessary...
"I wish you would compare the last two rdgs. and write me
what you think. The two make a life's history, and a fellow
knows what to do and not to do. It has been helpful in many
ways, and will protect us in the stock issue too, I hope...
I have several new people lined up.
"When my money is easier I can talk better and have more to
say and show. You are still the center of the markets and
our conversation. [
619] and his family love you very much.
There is one scarcity you will never know, and that is a
multitude of friends who love you and appreciate your
goodness, and that's a treasure in spite of the fact we can't
measure it in dollars accomplished. No one in all the world
do I know who has served so well and so many as you have. I
am thankful every day of my life that I have known you, and
that I have been able in a measure to send a few to be helped
and have seen it accomplished."
5/15/37 Mrs. [
601], wife of [
257]'s business associate [
619]
wrote: [to GD] "We went over the rdg. [extracts from
257-182] [as also previously
257-162] several times, and
[
619] feels more than ever that [
257] does himself and Mr.
Cayce a grave injustice by abusing the privilege of getting
so many business rdgs. and not being able to get the
fundamental truths they offer. [
257]'s trying to 'sell' Mr.
Cayce to all he meets, especially regarding business rdgs.,
has done more harm and loss of confidence to himself and Mr.
Cayce than anything else. [
257]'s seeking of material
success will have to come through the use of his own
abilities. There is much that can be discussed in person but
not on paper. Physical rdgs. and diagnoses are encouraging
(when tried and found beneficial) to seek what the
Information offers, and only when seeker has an innate
desire to make inquiries can same benefit by what is given.
Time and time again it has been proven that this can not be
forced. Your many experiences have certainly proven that."
5/24/37 Mr. [
257] obtained
257-183.
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