Edgar Cayce Readings, 333-5

(Body and enquiring mind in connection with the proposition he is contemplating with [438], as to management of Sun Air Farm, ..., N.J. Questions.)

TEXT

EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [333]; we have had this before in other directions, [See 438-1, Par. 33-A], also the Sun Air Farm, [438]; the probabilities and possibilities here are many.
Ready for questions.
(Q) Is the chart #1 which I hold in my hand of personal and arrangement of duties feasible and practical and necessary for a key organization? [See 333-5, Par. R1.]
(A) There are many things that might be said respecting this chart #1. First it is very well considered, and there is little in same that should not be seriously considered - if this is to be made a very practical thing. For, while this proposition has been very well (the Sun Air Farm) offering not only an opportunity but a place for a great deal of activity, the individuals that are considered here MIGHT - if they AS individuals CHOOSE theirselves the association from their angles - make it a very plausible and feasible thing. However, the personalities of individuals as are outlined do not altogether accord in the present. This, then, would require that there be set an ideal, and that some effort be made on the part of each not only to have this outline as a map but rather as a practical thing or experience IN the experience or life of each individual. For, in so doing this could be made - and would be made - a success; if each individual were to consider the proposition as being able to be made a portion of each, with not only the idea of its being made a practical financial success but that there is the necessity on the part of all - not only in theory but in a practical manner - to apply themselves in a service for their fellow man. First, then, it is necessary that there be the expression from each individual indicated for certain specific activities, to show not only by word but by an experience the ability or capability of applying and making same practical; not only from the angle of just "taking what comes" but being able to so use the ability in such directions - that are so well indicated in the lives of each - that they CAN if they will make the effort. But this must be shown to those that are in charge, or the owners of such a place. For effort on the part of one is not the whole, but it must be shown to be a coordinant condition.
(Q) Any suggestion for changes or improvement?
(A) As indicated. The map or plan as set out would not be materially changed, yet there should be a very definite material change in the application of self - or of the individuals - into the plans indicated. It is one thing to say yea or nay, and another thing to act that way!
(Q) Any suggestions as to method of expansion as work increases?
(A) This would be the natural thing. Hence the first preparation. There would be the necessity for the individuals each to show themselves capable of handling first NOTHING, in a paying way; by the manner of improvements that might be made in every direction. As it is mapped here, and as it is applied so it may be able to include eight, ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five to be handled in the same way - yea fifty at peak days or periods.
(Q) Are charts #2 and 3 representing duties of [333] and [602] feasible, practical and in accord with good sense, reason and judgement? [See 333-5, Par. R2.]
(A) As indicated from the first, these are rather the more comprehensive - and as necessary as any.
(Q) Is the plan for maintenance, carrying on and the expansion of the work at Sun Air Farm feasible, and practical from a material standpoint?
(A) As indicated, it must be able to show itself feasible and practical even without a single CONTRIBUTING individual; by not EXPENSIVE improvements but what would be necessary for the type, character of the whole proposition. And when it's that, to be sure the individuals must be big enough to be included - or including, a peak number.
(Q) Are these worthy activities and best measures for all concerned which have their basis in the improvement of health, the making of the lives of individuals more worth while from the standpoint of greater service to their fellow men and greater spiritual development?
(A) This is an ideal set-up, in the words indicated. As already pointed out, the manner in which individuals approach such an ideal is that which makes for the mental and material success. For, as an illustration or comparison: To one under one environ a $2 shoe, a $3 suit, a 50 cent hat, would be wonderful if they were new or if he were going to an organized place of service or worship. To another such would be used for a masquerade at some social function, with little thought of any specific significance. To another, with another angle or turn or approach, such would be but laughingstocks to many, viewed from either approach of well-meaning individuals to a service to the Maker, to themselves, to be seen of their fellow man in any association for help or aid. So, in the preparation of self or associates, it is necessary for the individuals to be within themselves able to be all things unto all men that they may thereby save the more; be able to weep with those who weep, mourn with those that mourn, be joyous with those that would rejoice or show forth joy, be happy and longsuffering and kind - ever. And in such a surrounding, association or understanding, ONLY may such be made to its better, greater success; holding to that which is good, eschewing evil - not merely winking, but not by precept only but by the very living and acting may one enjoin others the more and be of the greater service in such an undertaking.
(Q) Are they in accord with the ideals and purposes of the Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment? [See [254] series.]
(A) When set as indicated, they are then inclusive.
(Q) Is it reasonable to expect a closer association of Edgar Cayce and family with these activities at Sun Air Farm?
(A) It may be; it may not be. This depends, to be sure, upon that being set in motion that attunes with those ideals and purposes that are set forth through the activities of the body called Edgar Cayce.
(Q) Would it be wise and helpful at this time for Edgar Cayce and family to plan on headquarters at Sun Air Farm with the intent of spending considerable time in their work for individuals from this location as headquarters? Please comment in detail in this connection.
(A) This may be a development, but NOT in the immediate. This would necessarily become a growth, and not as a drawing card nor as a balance of those influences, but rather should such be as a cooperative measure - ever.
(Q) What would be a proper basis for remuneration as a total for [333], [602] and [670] for first year of activities, in addition to food and lodging?
(A) According to that increase shown in every phase of the expansion, the development, the returns in their activities.
(Q) Is this plan for change in activities of [333] in accord with that part of his Life Reading which states that "through activities which may be had in the mental the entity may become a minister in the sense of ministering to the needs of many people," etc.? [See 333-2.]
(A) As indicated in accord with the abilities - if the applications are made in that direction.
(Q) With reference to [son, [670]], will he be able to fit in with the work at the Farm?
(A) This is a great big question. Rather would those associations be made that are not so confining, to be for the greater expansion for this body; though, as indicated, such activities CAN be made satisfactory, if there is the application and the cooperation; not that he may do ALL, or that he may be the whole show, or that he may be in the position of afraid that he will do more than his share. Rather all should have the fear that they would not do enough.
(Q) Is there any special field of activity along this line for which he should be trained?
(A) As we have given, we have given.
(Q) With reference to [wife, [602]], is she physically fit and otherwise suited to carry on the activities as outlined in chart #2? [See 333-5, Par. R2.]
(A) More capable and more fit than the rest! This doesn't belittle the rest; but the body is more amiable than the rest.
(Q) What particular service would be best to develop to make enterprise a success materially?
(A) As indicated, rather being able to be all things to all, that there may be the greater service. Not as a hospital, not as merely a recreation place, but rather as BOTH - combining rather the recruiting of strength, or the gaining of individuals' former service. Recuperative.
(Q) What success can be reached in this development, and how long will it take?
(A) Unless it can be made a success without an individual paying, then it cannot be made a success with all or double capacity. For he that saves not, or that is not constructive when there is the least above the absolute necessities, does not make for construction or for the saving or for the creative forces when there is the larger. For, as the twigg is bent so is the tree.
(Q) How could [Mrs. [459] of ..., New Jersey], aid in this development?
(A) This association should rather be entirely separate, as a summer camp only; and that rather for the children of certain ages and not helter-skelter or harem-scarem, but in separate camps and tented camps in the summer; though those in the capacity of the vivands(?) [viands?] for the health and association and recreation could aid in supervising or planning, so that the clientele is cut in such a manner as to be more in line with not only good judgement but practical application. Choose an age - ten to fifteen - of both sexes, or those of twelve to eighteen, or the like, or from nine to thirteen; but keep the camps separate. If there should arise from such camp the adult activities that would be associated or connected with the recreation or year-round activities, WELL; but such should not be figured as a portion of the camp returns - but reasons rather that same might be made a more practical thing.
(Q) Which building should she use?
(A) Tents, rather than buildings. Summer, rather than winter; retaining the present surroundings in [..., N.J.] for the winter, or fall and winter and spring; and using these only for the summer activities.
(Q) What additional equipment needed?
(A) Quite a bit! This should be considered from the tented arrangement, and not from any building?
(Q) How many children should she plan on getting?
(A) Less than twenty of each sex would not pay; each ten then above same would add that such more to the practicability of the project.
(Q) On what basis should she be invited into the general undertaking?
(A) Not in the general undertaking! Only as indicated in the foregoing!
(Q) What future awaits her in this association?
(A) That depends, a great deal upon those with whom the body would affiliate or associate self in the undertaking - as we have given before. These have been FULLY outlined as principles, and haven't changed; for human nature is the same, and it must be met in such undertakings.
(Q) Will the association be compatible and agreeable between [333]'s, [459] and [438]?
(A) If set in those directions as indicated.
(Q) Please advise best operating plan for each to undertake for success for whole.
(A) This has been outlined.
(Q) When should plan be put into operation?
(A) When it's the season! The preparations should be made as from the project indicated. They each should show themselves, not merely by words, capable of meeting the conditions.
We are through for the present.
Three copies to [333] - Special Delivery (1 for Self, [257],
Copy to Ass'n file [438])

BACKGROUND

See Mental-Spiritual Rdg. 333-3 on 11/19/33, and Physical Rdg. 333-4 on 7/31/34.
1/23/35 He phoned for a reading and submitted questions.

REPORTS

Chart #1:
[Wife, [602]: Cook, Cooking, Preparation of Food, Dishwashing.]
[Handy Man: Furnace and Stoves, Housecleaning, Electrical repairs, Help serve in dining room.]
[Outside Man: Cow & chickens, General upkeep of grounds, Plowing, Harrowing, Planting, etc., General garden work.]
[Son, [670]: Outdoor work, Repairs and construction, Care of boats, floats, tennis courts, games, equipment, firewood, gardening.]
[General Handy Man: Help serve in dining room, Preparation of food, Gen'l housework, Cleaning - bedmaking, Waiting table.]
[Mr. [419]: Treatments [See 419-4 on 8/02/34.], Outdoor activities of guests, Driving and errands, Batteries [Radio-Active & Wet Cell Appli.]]
Charts #2 and 3:
[Mrs. [602]: Gen'l supervision of kitchen, cooking, preparation of foods, care of, ordering of foods; jurisdiction over quantities of food required; preparation of menus and changes necessary to give variety and cover seasonal changes. Gen'l supervision of dining room and serving of guest; housecleaning, care of rooms, linen, laundry, dishes, equipment. General welfare and comfort of guests.]
[Mr. [333]: Welfare, comfort and entertainment of guests; Maintenance and repairs to house, grounds, buildings. Bookkeeping, Accounts, Collections from guests. Reports. Maintenance and repairs to machinery. Purchasing foods, equipment, furnishings. Carpentry, machine work, gen'l construction. Gen'l supervision of household activities. Treatments follow readings.]
2/05/35 Mr. [257]'s letter: "Well, [333] will go to [438]'s and take over the farm Wed. [438] goes to Radio City, and we will have some meeting place [for A.R.E.] - a room to hold 400 people - the finest in the world. Dr. Jos. L. Rothfeder [M.D.] will go with him. Can you beat it? Well, if we live long enough we will some day win the place you deserve. [438] expects to open his place in Radio City on April 1st. They are spending for him $25,000 to make it a wonderful place."
7/12/35 Mr. [333]'s letter: "We are in no way connected with the [438's] or Sun Air Farm. We have been taken in off the street because we were homeless, by two wonderful souls... We are convinced that all we came up here for was to work without pay for months and then to have things made so disagreeable that we could not stay on and reap the result of our labor. This was known and understood between them from the start. To get anything out of it I will be compelled to file a lien against the estate."
9/07/35 See Ck. Life 333-6 seeking vocational guidance, etc.