GC: You will have before you the body and enquiring mind
of [
341], present in this room, and the plans for the trip
which he intends to conduct during the months of July and
August with Mr. [
2136], [
487], Harry [...]; Randolph [...];
Ferebee [...]; Berry [...]; Knaus [...]; and Stanley [...] as
companions. You will advise [
341] as to how this trip may be
made as successful as possible, indicating any conditions
that may arise that will require special attention
considering the route to be traveled and the experiences to
be met. Answer questions.
EC: We have the body, the enquiring mind, [
341], present
in this room; the contemplated trip, the route, the
companions.
As we find, in giving that which may be helpful in meeting
the emergencies that may arise in such an undertaking, the
individuals as indicated will have conditions in themselves
to meet. Precautions especially for certain individuals; as
with [
2136] of poison ivy and those kindred weeds and things,
for the body will be - under the strain - susceptible to
these conditions; while [Randolph] and [Knaus] should have
special care and precautions taken pertaining to a diarrhea
condition. Take Duees Mixture with you. With others, there
will be almost normalcy throughout.
The greater precautions, then, will be respecting the water
after you have passed beyond the Mississippi River, and
especially in the southwest and in the central portion upon
returning.
With these precautions, as we find, there is little that is
not known respecting precautions already to be taken that
would be helpful.
As for the general circumstances that surround such an
undertaking, the natural precaution of both in charge should
be not to such intention as to make the overanxiety or
over-zealousness, but do not allow those things that are of
the nature especially in these lines that have been indicated
- and especially for those individuals as given.
Make special precautions and preparations for caring for
conditions under those environs.
Ready for questions.
(Q) Through which area should [
2136] be most careful of the
poison ivy?
(A) It'll be the whole area!
(Q) What would be the best remedy for him?
(A) Take internally that which might prepare the system
for the resistance against such things, you see, which would
be - as we find for the body - to have, of course, those
things that are the best for such; as the stearates that may
be powdered on, and taking internally the properties that
make resistances in this direction - which will be, for the
body in the present, a combination of Milk of Bismuth and
Lactated Pepsin - half and half.
(Q) Through what areas would there be danger of the diarrhea
with [Randolph] and [Knaus]?
(A) The water area, where it is the alkaline.
(Q) What should be used for this; give specific directions.
(A) As indicated, carry Duees Mixture - that is made for
such tendencies. Don't leave a body on the way in any area,
you see, from illness, temperature, fever, or any of those
conditions.
(Q) Are there directions on Duees Mixture for the proper
dosage?
(A) There's directions!
(Q) Or should any special use be made of it for these
particular boys?
(A) Only when necessary. Take the proper precautions.
Especially through certain areas, as far as possible before
entering the areas, it would be well to carry the water with
you; yet this, of course, is of itself impractical in many.
But have the precautions as to the proper medical attention
through the centers where there are any tendencies for the
conditions to become aggravated in these individuals, or any
of the rest.
(Q) What is a general dose of the Duees Mixture?
(A) Teaspoonful. It's there marked, on the bottle, or it
should be!
(Q) Will the infantile paralysis epidemic be so dangerous
as to prevent us entering the park areas of California?
(A) Not so prevalent; or as long as you are in the open
there's little to be feared from such conditions. Or where
there are the areas for such, precautions should be taken
by those in authority or the officials; and don't attempt,
of course, to override these, for this would not be in
keeping with the general condition or the purposes for which
the organization stands that is represented by the body of
[
341].
(Q) What special precautions should I take regarding
infantile paralysis?
(A) Take iodine [Atomidine] when you are passing through
the areas!
(Q) How should this be taken; what should be the dosage?
(A) Take it in water! The dosage would be what is necessary
for the body; anywhere from one to five minims two to three
times a day.
(Q) Is Atomidine referred to, or plain iodine?
(A) Atomidine; for the iodine is poisonous!
(Q) Any warnings regarding the conveyance?
(A) Very good, as we find. Little trouble will be
experienced in this, except when you begin to return and
the climbing.
(Q) How can we make the best for each one on this trip?
(A) As we have indicated heretofore for such [See 341-40?]
let each boy be his own guide in recording that they as
individuals meet. That will be the better. USAGE of same
in the experience of all. Keep the notations, and require
this.
(Q) What precautions should be taken regarding spiders,
snakes, etc., during the trip?
(A) Just those necessary precautions as the warnings will
be in the various vicinities. And these should be required
or asked from the natives in whatever portion of the country
in which the activities may be. Of course, do not camp in
any of those areas where you are warned that you are in the
reptile area, or other insects or vermin that would be
harmful. Don't make encampments in places that you are
warned against! For, in all those areas through which you
would pass, there are those precautions that are national and
local - that are looked after by such. And just ask! For he
that asks receives.
(Q) Will it be best or necessary for [
487] to continue the
rub twice a day while on this trip, or may it be
discontinued? [See 487-15.]
(A) May be discontinued, to be sure, at any period; but this
has been given as a precaution, you see.
(Q) Any other advice for [
341] or [
2136]?
(A) Let the whole development be for all those, not only
as a group that is sight-seeing - but let it be inclusive
for all those developments of the body-physical, mental and
spiritual. If these attitudes will be kept throughout, there
should be experienced little or no trouble.
(Q) Are there any special areas covered in the contemplated
trip where the plans should be left out or changed for any
reason?
(A) Not as we find. Only those special precautions that we
have spoken of, respecting the various areas through which
you would go.
(Q) Will there be any disturbances in any part of the
country through which we go that would be dangerous?
(A) These will not begin before October. You ought to be
back before then.
(Q) Will any danger be experienced with any of the boys
through caves or hiking trips, or in the mountains?
(A) Not if the precautions are taken. Some of them are
very venturesome. This must be curbed from the first. Not
curbed in the manner that "You CAN'T do it," but in the
manner of the precautions necessary first for the
individuals; and then for those that would be responsible
for the welfare and the better conditions for each one.
This should be a portion of their training all the way
through. You have some very self-centered; some rather
selfish; some very peculiar developments will be seen as
to the characteristics of individuals; but these precautions
and developments should be kept as we have outlined. And
let self first be just as circumspect as is desired of
each individual, and require that circumspection and that
association that makes for the consideration of the least
to the greatest in the group.
We are through for the present.
Copy to [341]
Copy to Ass'n file
BACKGROUND
See
341-40 on
7/05/33 in re trip to Chicago and Yellowstone
with 5 of his local troop Boy Scouts.
REPORTS
See subsequent notations under
341-8 Reports.



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