5/24/40 EC's letter to [
391] following a short visit he and
GC had with [
934] and little son [
1208] as they were passing
through Montgomery, Ala., where [
391] was working, for The
Lance Packing Co., and living with his little family:
"Dear [
391]: Sorry to have missed you, both in ... and at
your home, would like to have seen and talked with you, for
I haven't heard from you since I saw you here last summer.
"I hope, [
391], you won't think me meddling when I say the
things I am prompted to say here, from having been at your
home while you were away. I was very much tempted to bring
[
1208] home with me, but didn't think it was right to do so
without talking with you about it. He looks pretty good but
isn't in good shape at all. I think he needs some attention
about the adenoids, and if you will let him come up here I
will do my best to have it looked after, if you think it a
good thing to have done at this time. I feel sure that
between us we can have Dr. Richardson take care of it and get
him in fine shape for this fall and winter. Don't know that
this fits in with your and [
934]'s plans at all but am
anxious about the boy. As you know, we each of us here think
as much of him as if he belonged to us, and it is because I'm
anxious about his health that I'm saying this. So, if it is
at all practical in any way for you to let us try and get
this all straightened out, we'll be more than glad to do so.
"I hope your work is developing satisfactorily for you. I
know you, like all of us, are having a struggle, and you will
have to buckle right down to it and do a real man's job. I
know you are tempted at times to break over from the warning
that has been given you, [
391], [See
391-18] but am sure your
better judgement tells you the suggestions were not for any
selfish motive but for the best for you and those dependent
upon you.
"You have one of the greatest trusts ever given any man, I
know, [with [
1208]] and I'm sure you can measure up to that
necessary to give him the best opportunity possible, if you
but will.
"Would like very much to hear from you - and know I'm writing
this only because of the love and respect I have for you and
yours.
"Let me hear, won't you?" Sincerely, Edgar Cayce
5/27/40 Wife [
934] wrote that she and [
1208] were leaving for
Va., asking for Atomidine to be mailed to [
391]: "His old
trouble is back." [See 391-18.]
6/05/40 See wife's rdg.
934-7 advising what they have to work
out together from the Grecian incarnation, how to help each
other in understanding and meeting their problems. Par. 26-A
Advises [
391] to "Keep not thyself away from that thou
KNOWEST to be good. Attend the Lord's house more often.
Keep thy body-temperament more in accord with thy purpose.
A double life, a double purpose is not a singleness of heart
in the Lord."
10/24/40 EC's letter to Mr. [
779]: "[
391] is back here and
has gone to work at the Ford Plant. Understand from him that
things were slow there [in Ala.], failure of crops kept him
from making the sales as he had at first been able to make.
He finally gave up and came back."
12/27/40 His wife [
934] wrote from Ohio that she and little
son [
1208] had gone to her home in Ohio for Xmas - she didn't
know whether she was coming back to [
391] or not. They just
couldn't live on what he made.
2/11/41 We heard that [
391] had enlisted in the Army; he felt
that at least his allotment check for his wife and son would
be welcome, and he would have his living expenses and be
doing something worth while.
2/13/41 Wife [
934]'s letter: "I'm in an awful state of mind.
I feel what I have done is right and yet I feel that [
391]
and I have failed each other. There's no doubt in my mind
that we could have done better in regard to our advantages.
It's too late now, so we must make the best of it. There are
times when I love him and miss him, and then again I feel
resentful."
2/27/41 [
391]'s letter: "I'm sorry that I've waited so long
to write, but really I haven't had time. I've been made head
cook and it keeps me pretty busy feeding 100 men three times
a day. So far I haven't gotten any better rank than a buck
private, but feel sure I'll get something better soon as they
can arrange it, either mess sergeant or first cook... I got
a short note from [
934] saying she might come down there and
that she was glad I joined the army if I would send her all
my pay, and that she didn't care anything about me and hadn't
for a long time, and that the cause was that I had neglected
her. I don't know when that started or ended, but she has it
all figured out somehow.
"My life has really been a jumbled up affair and naturally
there are lots of things I feel sorry about, especially my
boy, but I'd rather not even think about it because it's a
long, long way from the conditions I would like to exist.
He'll be all right, though, 'cause he will be able to take
it, and hand it out too. I only wish we could have known
each other at least."
3/02/41 "I really and truly like it here. One big reason
might be that I got a pretty big promotion for not being here
any longer than I have. I've been made Sergeant straight
from buck private and that's pretty good if I do say so.
I'm in complete charge of feeding about 228 men and it's
quite a job to keep the men satisfied on one end and the
officers on the other... I don't think I made a mistake in
joining up.
"I'll probably write [
934] today if I have time but if she
happens to be there and you get this first, tell her I'll
send her some money as soon as we're paid, - which will be
Monday or tomorrow. All I had when we left was what [brother
[
641]] gave me, $2."
3/03/41 EC's letter to [
934]: "Several times before [
391]
joined the army he came and talked with me, said a bit about
you and [
1208], but never in all my life have I heard him say
one unkind thing about you only he didn't understand you, yet
knew he loved you as he would never love another soul - here,
this time, anyway. Have wondered at myself, and is possibly
why I feel something of a guilty conscience, for after he
iterated all the things about not hearing from you, not
knowing what you were going to do and the like - I advised
him that possibly a year in the army would be the best thing
for each of you. So possibly you have me to blame for his
being in the army." [See subsequent Reports under
934-7,
etc.]
3/16/41 "I certainly want to see [
1208] but in a way I'm
afraid to. I know it would only make things worse for me...
"I went to church Sunday and they talked on the righteousness
of fighting. In a way it was amusing because he knew he was
contradicting everything that is taught outside in regards
to war and killing. It was all right, though. We had a good
time trying to sing without any music."
4/13/41 Wire: "MAY EASTER BRING PEACE TO OUR WORLD AND
HAPPINESS TO YOU, OUR DEAREST FRIENDS."
6/13/41 "I had a Colonel come in the other day and tell me
that we had the best and cleanest mess hall in the 29th
Division and it certainly made us feel good, even though we
do have to work like everything to keep it that way...
"I'm sending [sister [
288]] a life ins. policy made out to
[
1208] and I'm going to try to raise it to $10,000 - it's
only $1,000 now...also a $20 allotment for him. I know that
won't take care of all his expenses but it'll help. I've
been sending it to [
934] but the last pay day I had exactly
$7.50 left after paying all my expenses and couldn't send
her anything, and she wrote me a pretty nasty letter about
it and also one to my commanding officer. That was the first
time she'd written in about 2 months. Well, I'll let it go
at that but if at any time she thinks that is the way to get
a person to do a thing she's all wrong, especially about me.
I'm afraid I made a big mistake several years ago in not
taking [
1208] away from her, when I could have easily
enough." [See subsequent notations under
934-7 Reports.]
[See subsequent notations under
1208-1 Reports.] [10/41 We
heard that Mr. [R...] had set [
934] up in the restaurant
business.]
1/01/42 "Mr. Cayce, I want to thank you and God for what both
of you have done for me. I know I'm not the ideal person or
anything like one, but in my heart I feel a lot and in my
mind I think a lot - it probably doesn't add up but it's
there just the same...
"Mr. Cayce, please believe this - I haven't been wrong. I've
done lots of things that are considered wrong but I'm not
wrong or bad.
"Please take care of [
1208] in the way that you can, and also
try to help [
934]. She needs it badly and you know it, and
I do too. I realize there is only one way to learn, through
experience, but she's all mixed up and I think she knows it
now. I'm pretty sure that nobody else can help and she'll
only get deeper and deeper. I'm pretty sure that I'm not in
love with her now but if I thought I could help I would...
The only reason she ever gave me was that I was oversexed,
but for over a year I haven't touched a woman. Lots of times
it probably wasn't all my credit, but I couldn't help but
keep that in mind... Frankly, I don't want her back, but I
do want to help her if I can, and I want you to tell me how
and also help her yourself - you can.
"Happy New Year to you all."
1/13/42 "I rec'd the ltr. concerning the members uniting in
prayer for a few minutes each day [
1/08/42 See under
2678-1
Background]... I can't help but believe that is about the
only way the tide can be turned or stopped - just little by
little until it spreads throughout the world...
"I would like you to know I enjoyed my visit there very much
and appreciate what you are doing for me in watching over
[
1208] as you are.
"Some day I'm sure he will repay you and everyone who has had
a hand in his correct development, by living his life just as
you expect him to, for other people rather than for himself,
and you know he will be capable." "P.S. Just let me know
the time, and what is to be done."
1/28/42 Mrs. [
934] obtained decree for divorce from [
391].
Subsequently [
391]'s lawyer advised that [
934] could not be
granted the divorce without [
391]'s consent, and that [
391]
could claim custody of his son [
1208].
3/13/42 "I would like to know what grounds she did use.
The only deserting that has ever been done was by her, not
me, and about a dozen times at that. However, that's neither
here nor there. What I want is that child, and if I have to
do it the hard way I think I can, but I'd rather not if it
can be avoided."
3/16/42 "I would like very much to get a rdg. and find out
just what is the best thing to do and how to do it that will
be best for [
1208] in the long run. If possible would like
to let the divorce stay as it is but change the custody of
[
1208] over to me... I surely hope it can be worked out
without hurting anyone, especially him."
3/18/42 See
391-19 in re proper decision to secure best
possible environment and training for son [
1208]. Mr. [
391]
subsequently decided against contesting the divorce. His
sister, Miss [
288] was on friendly terms with Mrs. [
934]
and he felt that it would be best for [
934] not to be
antagonized. Mrs. [
934] allowed [
1208] to live with Miss
[
288] most of the time for the next
2-3 yrs.
10/14/42 Mr. [
391] sent a card saying he had arrived safely
at his destination (which we later heard was England).
12/07/42 "I had the allotment increased to $50 a mo. for
[
1208], two months ago. I'm buying some war bonds, too."
4/28/43 "This country over here [England] isn't bad at all
now, but the winter was something else. It rained almost
all of that, and we never saw the sun once a week even, and
then it didn't really shine - it just came in view to let
know it was still there, I think. The scenery is really
beautiful, tho, and it makes everything seem so peaceful when
everything is quiet.
"The people? Some are very nice and seem almost human - in
fact a few that don't exactly hate us. They still think
their own little shell is the whole world and nothing else
is very important, EXCEPT THE WAR. The girls seem to like
us much better than the men, and you can easily imagine
why. I've met two that I think are pretty swell, altho I
probably won't see either of them again. We expect to move
soon, but no one knows when or where."
6/22/44 "Well, we're right up on the front now and don't
know how long we'll be here. There's one thing about it,
we don't get lonesome at night because of silence. There's
some kind of gun or shell exploding at all times. The first
night or two I couldn't sleep for the noise but now I don't
notice them very much unless they come too close. Then we
have a hole in the ground to dive into and I guess as long
as we make it we'll be o.k." [Later we heard he was in
France.]
9/06/44 "I don't feel as if I could take another year over
here... It seems I've been in the army all my life and
sleeping in a hole in the ground. To just put on civilian
clothes again would build my morale up a lot... There's been
no pass for us since D-Day - anything but... When I do get
out I think I'll just spend a few weeks doing nothing but
lying in the sunshine and playing golf. That's about the
only game I won't be too old to really enjoy, that and
bowling, I guess."
9/19/44 "Haven't heard anything from Hugh Lynn yet but didn't
much expect to. He's on one side of the country and me on
the other, I expect. It would be pretty nice to run into him
some place. There's lots we could talk about besides war."
10/24/44 He wrote from Germany.
10/30/44 Clipping from paper, Norfolk, Va:
29TH JOINS BREAK THROUGH SIEGFRIED
With the U.S. 29th Infantry Division on the Western Front
Oct. 29th-(Delayed) (AP)-Scarcely pausing to catch its breath
after the battle for Brest, the U.S. 29th Infantry Division
shuttled more than 500 miles to the northeast in time to help
the Second Armored and the 30th Infantry Divisions smash
through the Siegfried Line Oct. 2, it was disclosed today.
12/07/44 He wrote about his physical condition - see under
391-18, saying: "I met a family of very nice people in
Holland..."
1/28/45 "I have a feeling that if I'm away from my son [
1208]
much longer we'll be almost strangers when I do see him -
it's been a long time."
4/04/45 We heard that he was back in the U.S. in a hospital
in N.J. [About the same time his divorced wife [
934]'s
gentleman friend R... died suddenly.]
10/21/45 Mr. [
391] and Mrs. [
934] remarried. The marriage
lasted about a month. Both had an alcoholic problem which
had grown during the years. Mr. [
391] worked for a while in
a florist shop, greenhouse, and loved it. However, his
personal problems, as usual, got in the way.
4/20/47 Ltr. from Ala.: "I like the restaurant work I am
doing - back in the kitchen, not out front with the
customers."
8/11/47 "I'm working at the Officer's Club at Lackland Field,
right out of San Antonio...kinda like being in the army."
3/22/48 He ret'd to Va. from Seattle and worked for several
months again in the florist business, liking it very much.
Then, again, his personal problems interfered. His wife,
[
934], who had again divorced him, remarried briefly in Ohio
and wanted their son, [
1208], ret'd to her. He, the son,
had been living with his Aunt [
288], where [
391] was also
living.
12/08/49 He wrote from Baltimore, Md: "Am working at a
wholesale florist here, but it doesn't pay much.
1/14/50 Copy of letter to his sister, Miss [
288], which she
allowed us to use:
This is just a note to give you my new address. It's about
the only place I've found since I left there that I liked as
a room to live in. Later I will write in detail lots of
things I would like to tell you. The whole thing can be said
in a very few words, though. I had to get completely to the
bottom of the ladder before I found it out and it has taken
me close to 40 years at that. It's this: Try as a person
might, there's practically nothing that one can do by
himself. I used to think, and honestly did, that I was
pretty close to Christ for a long time and then I began to
drift away, all on my own, thinking I could do it by myself.
Well, I found out different. You have to let Christ run your
life or you will surely make a mess of it in every way before
it's over with. You might wonder just what caused me to come
to that conclusion. Well, I have been broke and hungry quite
a few times within the past year - four or five days without
anything to eat and no place to sleep. The job I had with
the florist here was only extra work and I was laid off four
days before Christmas. What little money I drew had to go
for back rent, so Christmas Eve I was broke and no place to
sleep again and no chance for a job at that time. In
wandering around the streets I naturally ran into other
persons in the same fix as I was and found out they had a
place here where you could get a cot to sleep on and would
give you two slices of bread and coffee. They call them
"Helping Up Missions" and they are in lots of cities up North
but I'd never heard of them before. They have no
denomination, it's just a combination of all Protestant
Churches. Anyway, they give you a bed or cot, but first you
have to listen to one hour and a half of sermon before you
get it. Each night there is a different minister from a
different church; so they don't tire out too easily. I had
to stay there two weeks before I could get a job and I was
preached to every night. You might think this is funny but I
really liked it and looked forward to getting there every
night for the services. They make you get up and leave every
morning at six and then you just walk from bus station to
station trying to get warm and you're certainly glad when
night comes so you can go back there. They have about 100
there each night, all ages and all kinds. They never turn
anyone away if they have room.
It did me a big favor and I know it. I can almost say that
the past twelve years of my life have been completely wasted.
From now on I'm letting Jesus Christ lead me wherever He
wants me to go and do. It is not going to be done as easily
as saying it but with His help it can be done. As soon as I
get my one and only suit out of "hock" I'm going to church
every Sunday too.
New Year's Eve I went up to the biggest hotel here, I guess,
the kitchen part, that is, and the man put me to work helping
clean up the place, so I've been there ever since. It isn't
much of a job but it beats starving and freezing to death on
the streets. The pay is only $3.15 per night; I work at
night but if I watch every penny I can live on it until
something better.
You might also be interested to know I haven't had anything
to drink since October and don't think I'll ever drink very
much any more, if anything at all.
Say Hello to all the folks and I'm sorry I couldn't send any-
thing for Xmas, and please send my mail to this address, also
news of [
1208] if you have any. Love, [
391].
9/25/51 He wrote that he was still doing restaurant work.
(In Indiana!)
9/28/51 His sister wrote: "I spend all of my little spare
time 'doing' [
1208]'s clothes and taking care of him, but it
is a pleasure. This is a very critical time in his life, as
you know [15 yrs. old]. I'm not a good substitute for two
parents, but I'm doing the best I can.
"Keep sweet. I pray for you every night."
1/16/52 He wrote wrote that he was still doing restaurant
work: "Haven't had a drink in 3 months either - pretty sure
I have it licked at last."
8/52 He wrote that he was working in a big eating place in
Calif.
11/07/53 "I'm working in a social service organization [in St.
Joseph, Mo.] where I do all the cooking for about 50 men.
They furnish a nice place to live but don't pay very much.
The whole idea is for men that want to stop drinking to have
a place where they are helped in every way they can be
helped. The man in charge is a swell guy and he has done me
lots of good - how much I don't know yet. He wants me to
stay here 6 or 8 months and maybe I will. I can leave here
any time and get a job making $75 or more a week but I won't
keep it, so it wouldn't do me any good, I might as well stay
here and try not to blow up. At least he understands more
than most people."
8/14/54 [N.Y.C.] "I received a letter from the V.A.
Administration the other day telling me to report to the
[Tuberculosis] hospital in Castle Point [N.Y.] on
9/2nd... Please don't criticize me too much for the way I've
been. I've tried very hard most of the time to settle down
in one spot, but the terribly lonely life I've lived for so
many years kept pushing me on. I'm really and truly sorry
I've caused all of you worry and disappointment, and it has
hurt me more than I can explain, altho I know it has been
mostly my own fault."
4/04/55 "The more I think about it, the more I think I would
like to work around plants and flowers when I get out. The
big objection is that I don't think I will be allowed to do
much laboring work for a while, probably, and I will have to
make enough to live on."
1/04/56 He wrote this to his son, [
1208], [just before leaving
for Florida], a copy of which was given us by Miss [
288]:
"I'm sure that if your mother and I had stayed together I
could have done as well as any of the guys around the beach.
Whose fault it was is of no consequence. It's probably
better that we did separate. We are both pretty stubborn and
have violent tempers at times. Anything could have happened.
At the time she thought she was in love with a dead man and
it was pretty hard to take. If we had to live it over we
might not have given it too much importance but at the time
it seemed unbearable.
"I know that both of us would have wanted you to have a much
nicer life than you did have but our own little petty likes
and dislikes at the time were all important. Now they don't
seem to be, but it's too late as far as you are concerned.
The time when we both should have been with you, we were
somewhere else. You know all this, but I want you to know
that I know and realize it too and it has done me much more
harm than you, I'm sure."
See Gina Cerminara's analysis of [
391] and [
934]'s karmic
relationship as she understood it, after knowing both of
them, on page 119 of her book THE WORLD WITHIN - repeated
verbatim under
934-7 Reports.
7/04/56 See notations under
1922-1 in re beginning
relationship of Mr. [
391] and Miss [
369].
8/09/56 He and the neurotic Miss [
369] got married. Early in
'57 they separated, though kept in touch by phone and
letters.
4/23/57 He wrote from Bimini Hotel, 155 Bimini Place, Los
Angeles, Calif: "I am in L.A. and am in an A.A. home here
and expect to stay here as long as I can and see if I can't
stop this drinking for good. They will let me work around
here for part of my room and board for a while before I go
out and get a job in town. There are plenty of people here
just like I am so I won't lack for company."
5/25/57 His wife [
369] committed suicide - she was found in
her car in garage, no gas, dead battery, ignition on, closed
doors, indicating she had got in car, started motor and
passed out.
5/31/57 His letter from L.A.: "I'm too numbed and shocked
and full of hurt to think very straight...her last letter was
so cheerful...she had almost made up her mind to come to L.A.
or meet me in Denver... I don't know what I will do - I just
don't have any ambition at all now - just about dead all
over. I do think I should go to a V.A. Hospital and have a
physical check-up. She was after me to do that ever since I
left there. I don't want anything to eat at all, but I know
I must eat something."
8/08/57 See his son's letter to 391, under
1208-1 Reports.
10/10/57 "Everything is going along o.k. with me - had to
make a short talk last night at an A.A. meeting. I'm getting
so it doesn't scare me to death to say something to a group,
but I still don't exactly enjoy doing it as some people do."
12/13/57 "I'm back in a T.B. hospital again. I'm not too
surprised because I could feel the change taking place
gradually. I knew when I was working at Max Factor's that
the work was too hard but nothing I could do about it."
4/11/58 "Had a card from [
1208] saying he might be near here
the last of April and would try to get by and see me."
4/24/58 "Had a very pleasant surprise the other day when Hugh
Lynn called me on the phone, the only call I've had. I
didn't get a chance to say very much, but it was very
thoughtful of him to call."
8/03/58 "I have let the hospital... Am still pretty weak,
because I never exercised around the hospital, so it will
take a little time for me to get my strength back and go to
work."