Edgar Cayce Readings, 900-429

Time and Place: 11:15 A. M. Eastern Standard Time. N.Y.C.

TEXT

[900]: Now you will have before you the body of [900], present in this room, the various relationships in the life of this body, and you will answer questions that I will ask you regarding these relationships, or regarding the understanding he seeks to understand and apply in life.
EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [900] - this we have had before. In the various and varied interests and conditions, there are many things that would be well for the body to consider. In THIS relationship one would be mightily interesting, as well as instructive and beneficial. There is at last (and should have been first) serious consideration of the correlation of truths as are presented to the body through the various sources and channels, as have come to the assistance of the seeking mind. These have been thought on, yet many of these have been left aside for more interesting or more important things for the moment. In this correlation, then, it would be well that these various truths be compiled for or by the body in such a way and manner as they may be PROPERLY understood. In this classification there may be assured that these will act as a Board in this correlation, will it (the correlating) be properly set forth. Well that the body, the enquiring mind [900], consider the position each of these individuals has occupied in their various spheres of endeavor to present some phase of THIS phenomena the body, [900], is attempting to present to a waiting world at present. Consider their relationships of each of this Board during their experience and how same was received, for THIS a noble gathering - this Board. Morgan Robertson [3/09/29 A.M. See 254-49, Par. 15-A mentioning Morgan Robertson's advice] (not Robinson, for this is James Robinson - but Morgan Robertson), Leo Lopinsky, Lon Lombroso, David Livingstone, B. H. Wry, David Henry Wry, Benton H. Wentworth, Frederick L. Livingden, Thomas W. Marshall (yes, the vice-president), Deane L. Inge - these, with others, have in their various ways attempted to give their interpretation of THEIR experience. Some of these are in writings, stories of sea, of haunted homes, of various impressions of the same conditions being studied; some in the seeking of SPIRITUALISTIC influences - and some brought renown to their name, some brought shame. In the study of this, and where these may be attained or gained knowledge of in each of the phases that are studied, after such a correlation is made, will - in their own respective fields, as the study of same is made, give DIRECT TO the body that application in the present experience that should be made of that given. These are, as seen, in the intellectual field, in the scientific field, in the chemistry field, in that of the physical, mental, and spiritual field. Hence there will come, with the aid of these, the purely material application. Naturally there arises, then, this question in the mind of the body: Are these then lesser lights than those that have already signified their interest and their desire and determination to aid in the work? No. All stand judged before the truth in the same light, but one does not attempt to usurp the authority of another. THESE made literal application of the knowledge obtained through THEIR physical and material experience, and will give the ground work for the A, B, C, of the lessons as would be given by the body in the teaching. Then, these are necessary, also that it may be understood by those hearing and those teaching that there is the outline of the manner in which thought is directed for the training of the soul of EACH individual. In training, do not attempt to give meat where milk is needed. Do not attempt those of the heights before the individual is able to look up; but he that looketh up shall be raised up.
(Q) Does this mean that I may study these experiences of these individuals -
(A) Rather of self - through the individuals' experiencing, applied to self and HOW to apply same to those that would harken.
(Q) Not, then, seek the writings of these -
(A) Seek the instruction of these.
(Q) Gain through my own experiences -
(A) Gain through the study of the CORRELATION of thine own experiences.
(Q) How would it be best to proceed to do this correlating?
(A) One that would correlate, even as has just been given.
(Q) Does this mean the work to be done by Shroyer here at the institution? [Linden Shroyer - indexing of the readings?]
(A) Work to be done by Shroyer, or one that will correlate, classify, GRADE - as it were - the experiences of the individual, and the INDIVIDUAL'S experience would be a basis for the individual to lay out for many; for these cover such a field that more than a year even would be required in the correlating of this ONE individual's experience, that same may be studied even by the individual, that it may be given to others.
(Q) That is, spend some time myself in getting together and classifying my own experiences and the first impressions thereof, and that which is given from here - or was given from here - regarding some of them?
(A) And as the study of these are made, in their correlated form, these individuals - as a group, or as individual - will aid the body in the understanding of the lesson as is to be given to those seeking, of the forces.
(Q) How often, or how far apart should my lectures or classes be held here in Virginia Beach?
(A) Do not overtax self's physical or mental forces in such an undertaking to the undoing of that being attempted, but the more OFTEN this may be given - the better for self and others. As the body studies, and as the body has that to give, give. At least every fifteen - sixteen - days, or every eighth day.
(Q) That is, every Sunday afternoon, or every other Sunday afternoon?
(A) Either every Sunday or every other Sunday, but do not weary self nor others - but have the message that gives life, light, and understanding. Do not feed meats when milk is needed. Do not cause consternation where peace is desired. Do not take from, that which may not be given. Only aid an individual in the better understanding of self and self's abilities to gain that same access to the Father as was made by the Son, for all are children of the Most High and have fallen short in giving ourselves to the aggrandizement of earthly pleasures that fade and causeth corruption and rust, but in the light there is healing for those that would seek; and this body, this mind, may give just that needed for the many.
(Q) The hardest task, as was said by many who preceded me (and of course are greater than I), is to put these great fundamental principles in simple terms to people who seek not a lecture along ethical lines but some scientific relationship of their own being, to religious convictions in which they are already convinced.
(A) None is convinced in that science or religious convictions are one. The first lesson for SIX MONTHS should be ONE - One - One - ONE; Oneness of God, oneness of man's relation, oneness of force, oneness of time, oneness of purpose, ONENESS in every effort - Oneness - Oneness!
(Q) That's the hardest principle for the physical layman to grasp, particularly - as Ouspensky points out - TIME. That's the stickler.
(A) Time, in every one and in each illustration that may be applied; and be sure many of these carry as much humor as they do that of the shadow, that the Oneness is shown in these illustrations.
(Q) Would it be well that we have some formal opening at the Hospital? or just proceed quietly to work?
(A) How oft has there been given, he that doeth good does NOT sound the trumpet nor make shouting from on high! Rather does it work from the INSIDE out, and such is merely the advertising of that which is NOT - or should not be - the intent and purport of that undertaken.
(Q) We seek only to demonstrate a principle through aiding those who seek aid from the spiritual source.
(A) That MUST ever be the intent and purpose of all, else it would become Jim Jones' or John Henry's or some other's, and not the work of the Lord.
(Q) Patients who know our hospital is open must -
(A) Has it not been given, O thou of little faith, that prepare that source in a way and manner that there may be given the opportunity of the forces to manifest THEMSELVES and it would do so? Believest thou that? or dost thou still become the doubter?
(Q) Now in the life readings, in studying same I note a change of sex from one incarnation to another. I -
(A) How oft has there been the expression heard, "Were I a man - ", or "Were I a woman - I would do so and so? They do it! That as is constantly builded in the mental being takes shape in the home of the soul, whether to build that of the man or woman in a material world; for man is so much a portion of the whole as to either be a co-worker, a co-builder with the oneness of the force called God, or a destroyer - and as these forces then are builded, they take physical form through that experienced by the body of the ENTITY (not the physical, but the BODY of the entity - the soul). The soul is that everlasting portion of a body that is either crowded into that (beings that are known as men and women) of small or great stature. As has been studied time and time again, as has been given in relativity of force - in the active principle of the atomic conditions that take place in the material and spiritual world - the surroundings of the individual has ITS influence, see? that is, it has been long seen and known by man that the Laplander gradually attains to a certain stature and build. Why? The material surroundings are such that there is constantly implanted in the soul of the entity that that is that necessary for the best development through that individual plane, phase, place, position, of such peoples. Peoples seek, then, through that same channel through which it (the soul, the entity) may develop, that as necessary for its experiences to bring the perfect understanding of that oneness of which there has much been spoken.
(Q) Regarding my experience last night, is this a literal demonstration of that that took place at the death of Gary?
(A) That is the literal demonstration of that that took place in this individual experience. That is also complimentary to that which takes place at the change in EVERY individual as passes through this vale; or becomes the experience at the awakening, or the quickening, of that individual's own inner self.
(Q) That is, the crowd on the physical side, or the group, and the group on the spiritual side, and the link between the dying individual is a literal representation?
(A) A literal representation of that taking place. Now THAT may be given five years hence - but what would it mean to be attempted to be taught today!
(Q) I'm seeking that based on that which I have already studied - Now, regarding vibrations - that are but the application of the principle that I somewhat understand - the theory I get a little bit, sufficiently to teach - yet its application in terms of chemistry, engineering, or any other field of science, medicine for example, in the assimilation and secretions of organs of the body, I do not quite correlate.
(A) How oft has it been given thee that in application the understanding of a theory is understood? As has been given, that to know and not to do is sin. To not know and to err is sin. To know and to apply that that is known is growth in the understanding of that as may be gained. Just as has been seen in the experiences even of Watt, in how that the raising of the lid was not understood - but the same force put into application brought to mankind much of that that gave a more perfect knowledge of steam. In the fall of the apple there was little other than may be experienced in any individual's life. Only Newton first saw that it applied to his relation with the universe and how it held the whole in the oneness one with another. In the application of the KNOWN the THEORY was gradually known by those who applied. Do thou likewise.
(Q) That is, in each experience there is a law which may be reached through working out the experience in terms of material application?
(A) To be sure.
(Q) Yet what I mean - for example, to be definite - I can imagine the oneness of this force as respecting the air, the minerals, and Niagara Falls for example - but I might not be able to do even what the material minded can do, who can imagine no such thing in utilizing the Falls.
(A) This is a very poor illustration. Rather take the apple, from which there seems to have fallen - Does the apple grow from the seed or the seed from the apple?
(Q) The apple grows from the seed.
(A) The seed grows from the apple, because the apple and the blossom is there before there is the seed. These are all one in the purpose, as is seen in the growth of that which beareth that fruit that is known as the apple. The oneness of this force, once understood - by these various illustrations as may be given from the study of the correlation of the experiences of the body - Don't get the examination exercises before you get your A B C's. Commence at the beginning! Be satisfied with a beginning, not be looking for the end before you BEGIN! See? In the correlation of these INDIVIDUAL applications, as has been given thee - and as will be given thee by those who have just been pointed out to you - there will be shown the way. Believest thou that? Then DO IT! We are through for the present.
Copy to Hugh Lynn Cayce
Copy to Thomas B. Brown

BACKGROUND

See 254-48 on 3/07/29 in which Jeremiah spoke in re Cayce Hospital and E.C. Work. Also see 900-428 on 3/08/29.

REPORTS

3/09/29 See 254-49 on EC work mentioning Morgan Robertson, etc.
3/12/29 [900]'s ltr. to EC:
New York City
Mr. Edgar Cayce, 115 - 35th Street, Virginia Beach, Va.
Dear Edgar:-
As per my letter yesterday, enclosed please find our check in the amount of $3300. This, together with the $1110.10 sent yesterday, makes a total of $4410.10 sent to you for payment of Association bills which, together with [195]'s $600.00, makes $5000.00. [137] says you have something around $1000.00 in the various accounts, which would just about see you through the month, provided no additional bills are made. For this reason and on advice from [137], we both thought it best to make no new obligations at this time, due to the bad market conditions we are now experiencing and the resultant necessary falling off in business. This, however, does not mean that all necessary things should be delayed, for, of course, the water supply must be remedied and a new well dug and this, together with other necessary things, we will have to take care of and will do. We meant that those things not absolutely necessary to be done at this time could be done or started next month when conditions may become better for us, making it easier for us to do them.
I received reports this morning and they are even more interesting when read or that one that I heard is, than when listened to it. Before [137] even read the one in which so to speak I was more or less bawled out, he seemed to sense or they seemed to cause him to sense, that which was meant and the upshot of it was that [137] remarked, "if you will permit, and they can do what they say the can, in the manner of making you able to demonstrate your theories, then the intellectual class in the university must recognize same to the extent that will be gratification and mean much happiness to you, for it will bring you recognition in a material sort of way that comes from organizations rather than as it does now from some individual like [202], for example, who gained some understanding and compliments you, but can do nothing about it to cause recognition and thus bring the kind of advertisement we want. Through this means you may occupy a chair in the University you seek to create rather than after the creation of same be more or less of a theoretical outsider. If there is indicated aggravation on the part of those on the other side, it is that you or your attitude is such that you create obstacles in the way of you, yourself, realizing the heighth [height?] of your own ability, which same evolved potential ability, may take others one, two or more incarnations to realize. That is what [137] got out of it and he finished by saying, "so long as you cannot demonstrate in physical terms your theories, the other fellows' theories will command as much attention and be considered just as valid as your own, even though you are backed by the readings that you know (but the other fellow does not know), give the truth. Every man cannot get a reading; every man cannot enter the hospital, but thousands may learn of your theory of oneness and its individual relationship to each one of us if you can demonstrate that that theory means something in the physical life of each individual. He seems to have hit the mark, for since being home I have more or less experimented and found I could at will almost bring into direct communication many of the individuals who have and many who have not, spoken through your reports. Paul, for example, was one with whom I was able to establish a communication, when I sought Him & he gave me His name in the communication.
I heard an individual I believe was Morgan Robertson say OF me, "he is resentful" and then say TO me, "alright, if you want to preach a lot of unworkable theories, then let loose," meaning about what Gary once said in a like manner, so you see at least I am getting one principle and that is the ability to call the other side through proper application, to do that which those on the other side want to be done, into communication. That is, there is some law here that each and every one may apply and it is some direct relationship to the law of relativity of force and means that each may, through a certain means, establish for himself a certain specific and definite relationship either to the world or to the other worlds, gaining and establishing through certain communications and bringing into play, through certain of the universal forces communication & information that may be materially applied and demonstrated. I am going to work further on this and believe as experience grows I will eventually be able to reach a conclusion regarding the application of the law of the relativity of force in relation to the individual and the individual's experience. If one mentally can bring his consciousness into the equilibrium brought in our machine, the results will be the same - see?
I have an inkling that this is an emanation that comes from that Board augmented by Paul. As the law of relativity of force is demonstrated in the working of our machine so it may be demonstrated and used in the working of our own experience. The formation of that law will be made for the intellectual world when I so learn to apply it that I can, at will, in specific mathematical terms demonstrate it in a material way and manner. Regarding the apple and the seed, I have asked many, many, including [137] and others, and they answered as I did, yet I sought even a materialized verification of the answer and you will be surprised to know that I got it. Things are beginning to come easier when I look for them. I find, through research, that in South America there was discovered an orange grove composed of seedless oranges that no individual ever planted and that is a totally uninhabited region. No one knows how the oranges grew, or least of all how seedless oranges grew when Burbank first discovered the method of planting certain seed combination to produce same. Nature had beat him to it. A seedless orange had already grown, though no human hand had ever first prepared the seed, which is, of course, a direct answer to Burbank or to the Burbank theory. Such then is a materialized demonstration of the fact, that the seed come from the already produced apple, although to the physical kind even of the scientists, it seemed there could be no apple if first there were no seed.
Nothing else new for the present, but hope I can realize a little of that which is held out for me.
I don't know what I shall be able to make of my class in Virginia Beach. I hope something worth while, but all the joy isn't out of life for this phase of my life at that, for a few here in New York have asked me to go over Tertium Organum with them and explain it to them so without any official organization a little class here may be started.
My best regards to your family and thanking you for you kind attention, I remain, with kindest personal regards to you in which [137] joins me,
Very sincerely yours, [900]
Enc.
3/25/29 [900]'s ltr. to EC:
New York City
Mr. Edgar Cayce, 115 - 35th Street, Virginia Beach, Va.
Dear Edgar:-
In accordance with Van Patten's letter to me, a duplicate of which I enclose herein, I am sending to you two checks made out to the Association of national Investigators, one for $1000.00 that is due immediately and the other for $550.00 that is due on or before April 3rd. Will you kindly pay him the $1000.00 now and the $550.00 when it is due, for our lots.
A I understand it, we now have the entire block. Does this also include Lee & Hunt's lots? I would advise that you close with Lee & Hunt as soon as you can on the basis of $1000.00 for one lot and the other lot given to us. This would finish the whole block and also with what we have on the next block give us an inroad into that one.
Would advise that you also instruct Van Patten to continue to try to get lot 6 in block 12 for our price of $750.00 on our terms, and to take same when he can get it. We will eventually use this second plot to put up the cottages we spoke about, keeping the lots in block 14 for further expansion purposes and to create a place of beauty in the form of a park. This, I think, is in line with our program, - do you not think so?
I would also advise that you continue to make whatever necessary improvements must be made either in the hospital building itself or on the ground.
I am working hard on my lectures and also have returned to study of anatomy, which, together with the business and the necessary recreation in between, keeps me fully occupied. Of late I have been fully warned to get the necessary rest and recreation or the whole purpose will be defeated. At first I paid little attention but when my face began to swell again and the old trouble started to come back, I decided to heed so devoted this entire week-end to play.
Am sorry I neglected Edgar Evans' Stamp Album, but hope the delay did not disappoint him too greatly.
Nothing further new at this time, or if there is in the way of my ever growing experiences, will save them for another time.
Trust you, your family and the Houses' are well. Take my kindest regards to yourself and all, in which [137], [136] and [140] join me.
Very sincerely yours, [900]