This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at the David E. Kahn home, 44 West 77th St., Apt. 14-W, New York City, this 16th day of October, 1935, in accordance with request made by the self - Mr. [1021], through Associate Membership of his wife (Mrs. [987]) in the Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.

Present: Edgar Cayce; Hugh Lynn Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mr. [1021]. Born April 7, 1889, in New York City.

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1. EC: Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [1021]; and those relations with the universal forces that are latent and manifested in the personalities of the experience of the entity in the present.
2. As to the entrance to the present experience from the astrological relationships, let these be understood by the entity as urges that are latent from the experience of the soul entity in the sojourns or environs of these as influences.
3. For as each influence about the earth and this stellar or solar system, these have in their relationships one to another an effect as an environment; becoming as hereditary influences in materiality to the entity. And thus it is not because the entity is born under a certain planet or a certain position of the moon, or sun, or any solar system, but because of the entity's sojourn or activity in a consciousness in that environ.
4. And as materiality in the earth becomes of a three-dimensional experience, so in other environs they become rather the dimensions of those planets in their relationships to the activity of the soul in its application of understanding gained BY the soul in its search for, and in its application of, its relations to the Creative Force or Energies.
5. Hence we have, in this entity's experience, Jupiter, Mercury, Saturn, Uranus; all becoming a portion of beneficent influences in the experience INNATELY and manifestedly, in so far as the entity entertains and applies those influences in its relationships to a causation experience in the earth.
6. So we have these, but irrespective of what the entity has done or does do about the present sojourn:
7. From Jupiter there are the great relationships with numbers of individuals in positions of prominence, eminence - though often questioned; yet these become as experiences for the entity in its relationships to the fellow man. The great masses; dealing with factors then in the material relationships that bring an experience (mentally) in the affairs of great numbers of individuals.
8. In Mercury we find an influence of high MENTAL capacity in the individual activities towards THINGS, towards conditions, rather than peoples.
9. For oft in the experience of the entity has the entity in this sojourn been able through the mental self to determine the motivative influence in the experience of individuals without the comprehension of that which the entity or individual has done about that it has acted with or upon.
10. The influences from Uranus make these rather as innate urges:
11. There are the interests in those things that bespeak of what may be termed the EXTREMES in the experience of individuals, without self becoming an extremist save in the thought of individuals that are of the same temperament or sojourns - as it might be said - as the individual's.
12. Hence the entity is able in its own mental self, its own experience among individuals, to keep well balanced within self.
13. And things that are mysteries, those manners in which individuals, groups, nations or peoples as clans or groups have performed or do perform or bring about activities in their experience from the mental aspect, are of particular interest to the entity in its thought, study, and at times in its seeking for relationships with groups; especially of those that may be said to be of varying degrees in their expression of the group relationship to the spiritual aspects.
14. Hence those of peculiar thought or of cult or others of various terminology of religious thought become of special interest.
15. Yet the entity within self, from its high mental abilities, finds very definite stands taken by self, THROUGH the experiences or applications of self in the material world.
16. For these, as indicated, are INNATE and are as hereditary influences in the deeper recesses of the mental forces of the entity.
17. The influences from Saturn have made and do make for experiences where things that are new, things that are changing, times and places that make for the markings of periods of experiences in the affairs of groups or of nations or of individuals, become interesting. And their activities and their whys or wherefores are sought by the entity in its MENTAL self.
18. Those influences that are adverse from sojourns we find in Mars, and in those things that pertain to Neptune.
19. Hence we find while the entity finds in wrath, anger, war, turmoils, those things that shake or make for doubts within self, these builded rather in the experience of self as a stepping-stone or toward an understanding become helpful experiences oft; as do the mysteries of water. Though the influence of large bodies of water upon the entity is as a DRAWING, and also travel upon same, the search over and in same, such things with their application into the experience become a part of the entity's TROUBLESOME conditions in the material affairs. Any influence that has to do with same sooner or later becomes questioned, as to what to do with the results of such applications.
20. Then, with the summing up of the innate forces in the entity's present experience, we find:
21. The entity is one that, having the greater dealings in the activities of its economical or social relations, will ever be among groups or large bodies of people, as well as individuals; yet the activities of self INFLUENCING the activities of great numbers.
22. The greater capacities of the mental influences of the entity are oft to be traded with the mental understanding and abilities of others.
23. Or, as may be termed, oft does the entity find the necessity of matching wits with others.
24. Again we find the influences making for the seeking into the deeper interests in the mysteries that are the motivative forces in the experiences of groups and of individuals and of nations and of peoples.
25. Also those influences having to do with what in materiality becomes, according to the thoughts of many, the mother of all material forces or three-dimensional activities; that is, water has to do with much of the activities. Yet activities in such or regarding such become as drugs upon the abilities or upon the arriving at conclusions in the experience of the entity.
26. Those things that deal rather then with more of MATERIAL things - as pertaining to the home, the state, the office, in a commercial or economical world - become rather the assured or surer experiences of the entity in its application in material experiences.
27. As to the appearances, then, and those that become rather as an environmental influence - or that are attractive forces in the experience of the entity in the present, we find:
28. The entity here is inclusive rather of its soul's activity in other spheres of consciousness, as well as in the material or earthly binding influence. These are not all the appearances, but those that in the PRESENT make for urges - as the environs do in the earthly experience of individuals.
29. Before this we find the entity was in that land nigh unto the activities of the entity in the present, during those periods when there were the settlings in that land now known as Rhode Island.
30. It was during those periods when there were the activities there of the settlers in making for the relationships with the natives of the land; also in making for not only religious freedom - that was the outer or motivative influence, but for the activities as related to the preparations for homes and the commercial activities with others. In these rather did the entity join, with the first of those settlers.
31. Hence those portions of the land in the East; the Connecticut land now called, Massachusetts now called, York or New Amsterdam; all of these have a peculiar influence upon the views and the aspects of the entity in relationships to its dealing with its fellow man.
32. So those things pertaining to the soil to the preparations for replenishing the activities to supply the needs of the physical man, become of particular interest to the entity in the present. Those things of the soil that grow, those things that are the products of the growth of the soil, those things in preparation of all of these, become a portion of the entity's experience.
33. The name then was Rogers Clarke (with the "e" on the end), and the entity gained in the greater portion of the activity, making for such relationships that brought about friendships.
34. Hence in the experience in the present rather does the entity become - even though in those experiences when Mars' influence arises innately in those things about the entity - not as one seeking peace irrespective of principle, but the abilities to apply the principle becomes rather in the entity's relationships to its fellow man, or the groups or the masses that may be influenced or benefitted; or detrimental influences may be made in their experience.
35. Hence the entity is one that argues well in ANY associations that may have to do with things or conditions that deal WITH the lives of individuals.
36. Before that we find the entity was in that now known as the Spanish and French lands, during those periods when there were many of the turmoils respecting religious thought, and during those periods called the Crusades.
37. The entity's activities were brought to a focus upon those periods of aggression by those of other thought and line of endeavor in the Holy Land.
38. Preparations were made by the entity for the joining in of these activities, yet through the very influence and activities of individuals about the entity that were of the higher thought or that as to their relationships were in command the entity forsook those activities. And the entity dealt rather with those things pertaining to the care for the home experience, and became then one for a period that was questioned as to the individual's activity.
39. Yet with those things that followed from the Second of the Crusades that included these portions of the peoples of the French and Spanish lands, the entity rose then to one rather to whom many came for counsel - or from whom much counsel was sought as to the selecting or choosing.
40. For much of these first arose from anger, yet determined within self as to the better or greater course to pursue - that would stand for not only one endowed with principles of the thought that was intended to be impressed by those activities in defense of the land, but for the principle that he who conquers self is greater than he that has taken ten cities - these became then rather as the underlying principles for the tenets taken into the activities of the entity then, as Charlemeinuen.
41. In the experience we may say, from the material standpoint, the entity gained and lost, and gained.
42. Hence in the present from that sojourn there becomes a special interest in those particular portions of the land - France, Spain and the Holy Land; yet the greater interest lies in that which is the motivative thought in home building, nation staying, or in the promptings for men that band themselves for ANY definite movement that may affect a nation, a people, a community, a state.
43. These are the innate forces that arise from those experiences in that sojourn.
44. Before that we find the entity was in the land now called the Persian or Arabian, during those experiences when there were the buildings of the 'city in the hills and the plains,' when many came for an understanding to seek out not only from the commercial angles but from that which arose upon that new stop upon a trade route.
45. Yet the entity in the seeking first began with what may be termed in the present as a commercial idea. However, with the experiences had by the entity in the sojourn in that particular experience, the greater influence arose as to become a portion of the entity's activities in that sojourn.
46. For with those applications of truths that became as life in the material, and as applied in the mental, there became the growth for hope, for faith, for a tolerance with individuals of different faiths or of different understandings. These came to mean much in the experience of Tolerenti in that sojourn.
47. Being of those peoples of the Persian land, and of those who had been under duress during the activities of the nomads, the entity came rather as one that might find vengeance - and found love instead; bringing into the experience then that which became the greater development for the entity in its activities in the earth.
48. And in the present the application of those same principles in the experience may be among the better, the greater growths in mind, in soul.
49. For the entity in its application in that experience made for the thought rather of that which would bring not ease but comfort, not idleness but the OPPORTUNITY to the individual to apply self in a constructive way and manner, in the buildings up of hope; in the establishings of the exchanges between various lands that might become the greater benefit in a commercial manner, yes - but rather in those things that would make for the greater opportunities for various groups to serve in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner in the places of their own abode.
50. In THESE the entity made for developments in the experience during that sojourn.
51. The application of that ideal in the present may make for the entity an advancement and a contentment that passeth understanding to those who only seek for material fame or fortune.
52. Before that we find the entity was in that land now known as or called the Egyptian, during those periods when turmoils and strifes arose through the banishment of the Priest and the rebellions that arose among the peoples of the King's own household, among the natives and later the turmoils rather among those that were allowed by the King and the portions of the ruling forces to arrive or to sojourn from the Atlantean destructive forces.
53. The entity, with the return of the Priest, became rather active when there was the dispensing of those influences that made for a correlating of the thought or the teachings of the teachers that were in the various portions of the land.
54. And the entity was among those that made for the BEGINNINGS of the establishings of the meetings that were termed as REGULAR conclaves (as would be called in the present) for the understanding and correlating of teachings of those in many lands; as Saneid in India, as Zar(?) and those of other lands, as Ra-Ta the High Priest of Egypt, and the teacher in that now known as the Gobi. All of these came under much of that activity begun and started by the entity then, as Tis-Uthon.
55. In the experience the entity lost and gained; gained in the abilities to make for the correlating of the principles in various groups, though under quite a different environment or clime or activity necessary for the sustenance of individual perpetuation of the motivative influences in the experiences of such groups.
56. As to the abilities of the entity in the present, then, and that to which the entity may attain, and how:
57. There are those abilities innate and manifested in influencing groups and masses, and in dealing with that which becomes as the influence in their experience of their material lives and their mental lives.
58. Then first, as in the French and Spanish period, conquer self.
59. Then, as in those experiences in the Arabian and Persian land, APPLY same in dealing with the fellow man.
60. And these will bring into the material activities that which deals with real estate, or the activities of home, or rentals, or the activities having to do with housing and home and lands and growths upon these lands and the protection of same.
61. There has been innate in the experience of the entity something that would make for the protecting of the fruits of the land, as a preservative manner. Follow that through.
62. Ready for questions.
63. (Q) Concerning the sale of Harlem pool to Joe Louis, when and where should I see his managers? and what method of approach? [See 1021-2 on 10/13/35.]
    (A) As indicated, this should be as soon as is made convenient by the general conditions that surround the activities of the body, Joe Louis or associates. For this will first appeal to the management as a means or manner to keep before the city, his own people and others, his desire to be of an aid, of a help to his own peoples, see? And the appeal to those should be in that manner as to establish such in the mind and in the experience of the managers as well as Louis himself.
64. (Q) Would his interest be in the nature of a personal enterprise or in conjunction with the city?
    (A) Rather in conjunction with the city, as an effort or as a motion in the direction to show the magnanimity of the efforts of the body Louis.
65. (Q) In what line of business could my spare time be used to advantage?
    (A) In correlating facts, figures, as to what are the motivative forces in the groupings of peoples in various lands or various sections; as to their activities and why. As is seen, this has been the experience of the entity in many lands.
66. (Q) Is there shown any special ability for political leadership, or activity?
    (A) Rather as the one that may be BEHIND the scenes, rather than in the van. One that may be said to be, as indicated by the experiences, able to put in position - by the activities and the relationships with others - the choice individuals for the positions where they may be of the greater service to their fellow man.
67. We are through for the present.

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BACKGROUND

1. He previously obtained a Physical and a Business Reading.

REPORTS

1. 10/19/38 HLC's ltr. to EC from N.Y.C.: "Mr. [1021], and the lady ([1024]'s mother) over whom he and Mrs. [987] split, spent an evening at [257]'s on Sun. We heard his side of the story. There are 2 sides to everything - maybe more than 2. He and Mrs. [987] both are fine people and it is too bad that things have gotten all messed up with them. She is still at ... Both Mr. [1021] and Mrs. [987] have been continually active in the work of Emmett Fox and it has done both of them good."
2. 1/17/39 "Dear Dr. Cayce. You were so very kind in your liking my Christmas Poem that I will send my little booklets to you as I get them out. It is my plan to print one every 3 months, that is about all I can afford and they seem to help people lost in the turmoil of present day life."
3. 3/02/39 Mr. [1497]'s ltr.: "I had the pleasure of meeting [1021] the other day; he is strong for you."
4. 11/40 He referred Mrs. [2414] for Physical Reading and secured a Life Reading for his new wife's daughter, Miss [2403].

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