This Psychic Reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 3rd day of July, 1937, in accordance with request made by the self - Captain [1395] Sponsored by Mr. [849] Active Member of the Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment, Inc.

Present: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. [1395], Mary & Tom Sugrue, Doris & Thomas House, Gladys & Charles Dillman, Edgar Evans Cayce & Hugh Lynn Cayce, and Kathryn Dreher.

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1. GC: You will have before you the body and enquiring mind of [1395] present in this room, and his plans in connection with the diving on the sunken wreck of the steamship, "Lusitania," which, since May 7, 1915, has lain on the ocean floor approximately eleven and one-half miles off the South Irish Coast between Galley Head and Old Head of Kinsale.
   You will go over this wreck giving its depth, its exact position, its longitude and latitude, the visible landmarks which may be used to locate its position from the surface, and the best methods of actually finding it.
   You will describe the present physical condition of this wreck, the visibility through the water about it, and any other conditions and facts which will be of use to the entity, [1395] in diving and making motion pictures on the wreck.
   You will answer the questions which may be asked.
2. EC: Yes, we have the body, the enquiring mind, [1395], and those conditions that exist regarding the position, conditions and the surroundings as relative to the Lusitania.
3. As we find, this is approximately in that position, that latitude - yes, the longitude - as would cross between Kinsale and Galley Head Point.
4. In position it is upon the larboard side. In condition, the whole of same is well in that of a wonderful state of preservation.
5. As to conditions as for visibility, as for time - these as we find:
6. The visibility - save as for the ledge, to which this is very close - is good; especially in the earlier morning hours - as Greenwich time - of eight to two. Then the shadows from the cliff make for poor visibility as to whether operating for pictures or for activity in those conditions about the steamship.
7. In those things as pertain to dangers:
8. These as for pressures are first to be considered. There had best be tests before there are the attempts of activities; for the damages to the structure are such that much of that sought is close to where there was the penetrating of the torpedo in the steamship; which - one is near center and one near the fore on the larboard side.
9. These are the conditions as we find them.
10. Ready for questions.
11. (Q) How can we best utilize our activities in connection with the Lusitania for peace propaganda, or other beneficial purposes to humanity?
    (A) This would become, as we find, very much of an involved subject, owing to the use of, or the combined efforts that would be necessary as related to powers that are involved or in combine at the particular time.
    As for the spectacle itself, this can be made propaganda - from the pictures - irrespective of these. But if there is the cooperation of those combines that were active at the time of this, there may be a great deal of advancement made - especially as to the type of warfare that was used, as is indicated by the condition of the Lusitania.
12. (Q) In what position does the wreck lie on the bottom and are the torpedo holes visible?
    (A) Those are visible, and as indicated it is upon the larboard side; though the entrance of the torpedo was from the side upon which the ship lies.
    The explosions and the activity upon the starboard make for visibility.
13. (Q) What is the best time to dive as to month, day and hour for best visibility and photographic work?
    (A) As for the hour, as has been indicated. As for the time, the harvest moon of August or May or June.
14. (Q) For the purpose of the divers, where is the best place to enter this wreck?
    (A) Near to where the strong room is indicated. For this is upward, and between the mid and the aft portion.
15. (Q) What is the position of the various safes and treasure compartments and how can these best be reached by the divers?
    (A) These will necessarily be reached, for the safety, from the outside, you see; that is, through the side at that position as indicated.
    Their position inside is very good; for handling and for the obtaining of that stored there.
    And there is combined with these much that should be taken into consideration by those working upon same; as may be indicated by the periods as are given for visibility, work, activity.
    As the moon's influence upon the waters is the greater at those periods indicated, and especially in these portions of the sea, these individuals - the souls of those whose bodies are here confined - work with same; for their release to many is just as important as on the day torpedoed.
16. (Q) Are there any dangerous places or conditions on the wreck which the divers should avoid in the course of their operations?
    (A) Those in the area forward where there were the gases that would be dangerous if they are released, as well as in that portion of the hole as made upon the starboard side by the middle torpedo.
17. (Q) Can the divers expect sympathy or antagonism from the souls of those who lost their lives when the ship sank?
    (A) Sympathy and help, as has been indicated. For the many hundreds are anxious, and would aid and would direct.
18. (Q) Will the [1395] Nohl diving apparatus as planned be adequate for this work and if not what improvements should be made to safeguard the diver and insure the success of the operations?
    (A) As has just been indicated, there must be some several tests; for remember, these depths are prohibitive to that which has formerly been attempted, and will require tests that are worthy of the time, the place and the conditions.
19. (Q) What improvements should be made in the diving apparatus?
    (A) We haven't that - we are in the ship here; and you are not down here yet!
20. (Q) Are there any unknown facts about the wreck and its contents which [1395] and his men should know?
    (A) Only that as we find as to the character of the gases that are still confined in the forward hold.
21. (Q) Is there anything in the strong room to warrant the secrecy order by the British Admiralty with regard to entering it?
    (A) We find nothing harmful. There's plenty that - well, it's well to be kept, but there's nothing harmful as we find under the conditions of removing same.
22. (Q) Are there any bodies still reposing in the wreck and if so should an effort be made to recover them?
    (A) To be sure, recover them - and there are hundreds!
23. (Q) Will it be possible to enter the bridge and retrieve the ship's bell, nameplate and Capt. Turner's sextant?
    (A) It can be done.
24. (Q) Did diver James Jarrat, on Oct, 26, 1935, reach the actual wreck of the Lusitania?
    (A) Reached the actual wreck, but he approached from a mighty dangerous end!
25. (Q) Would it be advisable to allow a woman to dive on this wreck?
    (A) This would depend upon many, many circumstances; and many conditions are to be considered. This to be sure would depend much upon the woman; for this is not much as a woman but as a soul seeking adventure or for definite purposes - these considered, we approach the question, of course, from a different angle.
    This would depend upon circumstances, much.
26. (Q) How much gold or bullion or treasure is in the purser's safe?
    (A) This not in the strong room - this here - there's two million, eight hundred thousand.
27. (Q) What about the strong room? Is there treasure there?
    (A) There's more millions there than in the purser's!
28. (Q) Is it best for us to proceed with Hercules Demetriades in connection with the diving operations?
    (A) This is well if those conditions are considered as has been indicated, as to tests for the whole of the situations.
    Many, as we find, in the present appear to be somewhat of questions or entanglements as for the cooperation from the British authorities. This is more red tape than it is lack of desire of cooperation, and as the actual activities begin, much of this would change. For there are those still here that are close to that influence that would aid in straightening these conditions.
29. (Q) What are the visible landmarks which may be used?
    (A) There are - at the periods indicated - almost in that of East - Northeast - the shadows of the Irish coast that is visible from the point. As from those towards the South, if these are attempted in the periods as indicated - August harvest moon, May full or June full moon - there will be a buoy that has been there for some time as a sounding in the due South. While that from the due North would come - see, this is from the point, we are right above same here - would be that as of a white cliff, not always visible but at those periods. Due West - this is ocean.
    As to the distances, now, from these points or marks:
    As we find that North by East, or between East and Northeast, we would find this approximately or very close - Well, we will measure - sixteen and three fourths miles; while to that due South, as to this (of course, this is much nearer, and is) - eight and seven-tenths miles. That to the cliff, as to the North, is much farther - this nearer twenty-three and three-tenths miles.
30. (Q) Are those nautical miles or land miles?
    (A) We are measuring land miles - we are a land lover; so these are land miles.
31. (Q) Is there any other advice or precautions which can be given to [1395] at this time?
    (A) These, as we find, considered, sifted, taking the circumstances and all the conditions as arise respecting the varied activities, may be used and be worth while. These as we find for the present are the most helpful. Don't forget - the second order in the observer's place.
32. We are through for the present. [7/03/37 GD's note: On waking, EC said he dreamed that Morgan Robertson presented himself; said: "Let me in on this - I used to write sea tales. One thing I want you to do - be sure to get that relative of mine - he is awfully disturbed - he was the second one in the salon - second man you come to when you go in there."]

    Copy to [849]
    Copy to Ass'n file

REPORTS

1. 8/26/37 Mrs. Bessie L. Warshawsky's letter to EC:
   "We were very much interested in the reading Mr. and Mrs. Dillman witnessed regarding Capt. [1395]'s work about the 'Lusitania.' That must have been a thrilling experience to have witnessed. Is it possible to see a copy? We will return it as soon as we read it. If that reading is 'private' we will be patient."
2. 10/27/37 "The [1395] reading is intensely interesting and hope he will be instrumental in releasing those souls.
   "Having the privilege of reading varied readings gives one an insight to the deep spirituality of the work and all of you connected with it. Our contact and friendship with you and all we have met through you is really the beginning of the most worth while periods of our lives."
3. 10/18/38 Mr. [849]'s letter: "You may hear from Capt. [1395] - remember him? His wife is seriously ill of T.B. He has her somewhere in Va. now, and may ask for an appointment when he can be present. Talk to him about sunken treasure - he'd like to help prove your work by following directions on a wreck - an interesting experiment."
4. 3/16/40 Capt. [1395] and Mr. [849] referred Mr. [2147] for a Life Rdg., and on 3/19/40 for a rdg. on sunken treasure in Caribbean. See 2147-1 and 2147-2.
5. Report:
   January, 1946, article in CORONET by John D. Craig, entitled "Danger Is My Business": "...The Munich Conference in 1938, forerunner of World War II, put a final halt to the Lusitania salvage operation. Just as in 1936, Britain was anxious not to antagonize Germany, still a 'friendly' power. In Jarrat's first dive on the Lusitania, he had found that there were TWO large torpedo holes in her side. The holes had burst inward, revealing that the explosion came from outside. Germany had tried to whitewash her U-boat commander by saying he had fired only one torpedo, and that its blast had set off the munition cargo which Berlin claimed the Lusitania was carrying. But Jarrat's discovery gave proof - if any proof were needed - that Germany had lied..."
6. 3/16/64 See Mr. [1788]'s letter under 1788-3 Reports indicating his interest in the Lusitania and the above reading [1395-1].
7. 2/12/69 GD's note: Mrs. Joyce Brewster of A.R.E. says her son-in-law, Lawrence Theorine, one of the divers, said that some of the crew had reported hearing (they thought) cries from below for help - as indicated in 1395-1, Par. 15-A and 22-A.
8. 11/28/73 Mr. Craig's letter:
   (Letterhead) 31532 Crystal Sands Dr. South Laguna, Calif. 92677 714-496-0199
   The Cayce Foundation Association for Research and Enlightenment 67th and Atlantic Streets Virginia Beach, Va. 23451
   Gentlemen:
   I am seeking to purchase a copy of Cayce's "BLACK BOOK" on his medical readings.
   Mr. Jess Stearn has sent me your address as a possible source.
   Edgar Cayce made two readings for me on the "SS Lusitania" diving program back in 1937 in co-operation with Tom Sugrue. At that time I was most interested in the accuracy of his reading. [See 1395-1 and 2147-1 and 2147-2.]
   Please advise me if a copy of the "Black Book" is available and what charges are in order. You may send it COD, or advise and I will remit.
   Thank you for this courtesy.
   Sincerely yours, [signed] John D. Craig
   JDC/ar
9. See Source File Key #1395 for newspaper clippings related to the SS Lusitania sinking re 1395-1.
   R.10 See National Geographic, April 1994, RIDDLE OF THE LUSITANIA by Robert D. Ballard, of Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.

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