Edgar Cayce Readings, 1767-2

Time and Place: 3:55 to 4:30 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. New York City.

TEXT

GC: You will give the relation of this entity and the universe, and the universal forces; giving the conditions that are as personalities, latent and exhibited in the present life; also the former appearances in the earth plane, giving time, place and the name, and that in each life which built or retarded the development for the entity; giving the abilities of the present entity, and that to which it may attain, and how. You will answer the questions that may be submitted, as I ask them:
EC: ("Yes - '27 - '91 changes - '86 - yes - " etc., on back to birth date.)
Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [1767].
In giving the interpretations of the records here, these are chosen with the desire that the interpretation be a helpful influence in the experience of the entity through this sojourn.
For each soul-entity enters a material experience not by chance but as a purposefulness, - fulfilling that whereunto it has been promised that He hath not willed that any soul should perish, but that each should know and become aware of its relationships to Creative Forces.
Then, as to whether there is the developing or retarding of a soul through any particular sojourn depends upon how the entity applies self, - or as to whether or not it is being true to that it sets or chooses as its ideal.
It is then in the mind of man, - and it behooves each entity to know in Whom it has believed, as well as in what it believes; and that in the applying of self there is that desire, that purpose that the activities may be in keeping with that in which self may be a channel through which blessings may flow to others; as well as a greater comprehension of the purposes of the Creative Force, its relationship as to the individual and with that as He has given, "As ye do it unto the least of thy brethren ye do it unto thy Maker."
In the fulfilling of this law there comes the awareness of thy relationship, thy kinship with the Creative Forces.
We find these as an influence, these as the personalities in the experience of the entity, - but without respect to the application of will, yet combined with the activities and the innate forces in the entity:
One that knows most of the time that it desires, and sets about to gain same. This does not mean that the entity is a plodder, but rather a doer of that it has and does set itself to do.
As will be seen from the appearances, as well as the ideals in the astrological aspects, the entity is one democratic in its ideas and the freedom of thought, the freedom of activity, the freedom of choice, - and that the answer must ever be within the individual self to give the reason for this, that or the other choice or activity in its experience.
One interested in those things that are of the scientific nature, yet one that might be said to be very skeptical along any endeavor unless there are the material manifestations as would justify the truth in any mental, spiritual or fantastic idea or ideal.
On tender-hearted in its dealings with its fellow man, in its associations.
One inclined to give credit where credit is due, irrespective of the position of the doer.
One naturally intent upon spiritual things, yet seeking positive proofs within its experience.
One that must ever keep romance as a part of its everyday experience. For whether it be in associations with the fellow man in business, in political activity, in social, in marital or in whatever relationship, when the romance is gone, to the entity it has lost its purpose, its value, - that relationship.
As to the urges which arise astrologically, - which are only urges and have nothing to do with the choice the entity makes of that urge, - we find that these are only as signs, omens. For, as is and ever has been the experience, TODAY there is set before thee good and evil, life and death - choose thou! It is the will, the self that makes the choice as to the urges!
In Jupiter we find that which deals with the great numbers of individuals who will be and are influenced by the choices and the activities of the entity; and the entity is considered as the leader and the director in many an undertaking of every nature or character. A natural builder of character in the experience and lives of those whom the entity may influence, directly or indirectly.
The Venus influence makes for the harmonies which arise from the romance of activity in whatever phase of experience the entity may engage or become active or interested; and not merely for curiosity but as a helpful or hopeful thing.
Hold to that, throughout thy experience, thy activity!
In Mercury, as well as in Uranus, we find the high mental abilities, the capacities of judgements, those conditions in which - whatever may be the phase of activity - there is the weighing of the various phases, sides or activities. Not inclined to be a person to wager or bet or gamble, yet one in which ALL of self and self's personalities may be waged for an ideal in its dealings and associations with others.
As to the appearances in the earth's plane, while these in the present sojourn do not all become especially active, we find that there have been many varied activities, many periods of sojourn in the earth. But those influencing in the present:
Before this we find the entity was in the land of the present nativity, during those early periods of sojourn and activities in the very early settlements of this land.
We find the entity, as Michael McCarthy, lived to be only a few years old in that experience, - as compared to the general years of activity in a material plane; yet a vision of possibilities, the vision of that which might be attained especially in the building influences and those things that had to do with activities in construction, and the influences for such in the lives and hearts and minds and purposes of individuals.
These were the desires, the thoughts of the entity during that experience, with little ability to carry same forward owing to the hindrances in the physical being. Yet the visions; and these have become a part of the entity's experience in the present.
Before that we find the one bearing the greater upon the activities of the entity in the present, - during those stages of the purposes that were set by the early fathers of the church - as called; during the Constantine period, - when the law and the order were rather for those in authority and in position and in place to become affiliated and active in both state and church.
There we find the entity in the activities of spreading the influences and forces in that called the Roman activity, - in the name then Eundar.
We find that a great deal of the disturbing forces arose between the leaders of the church and the leaders who were strong in political activity, and the influences as the entity saw in the capacity of those who would direct the activities in the advancement of that particular Roman power in the period to make for a reconciliation of ideas and ideals and of church and state.
And as we find in the present, there are the abilities of the entity to think in terms of those influences or places occupied by each of these in their individual place in the experience of individuals.
As may be called in the present by some, with that thought of the freedom of choice the entity may become too much opposed to that thought held by some, - that the freedom of choice in the experience of some may be too much for their own good, unless directed by those in authority to countermand or demand of others in their activity.
Yet for the entity, the basis of that taught by Him IS that the way, the truth, the light may be free for all; and that the choice in the present, as then, must be within the individual rather than that as may be given as authoritative by any group or individual who would act in the capacity of a director.
Before that we find the entity was again in the activities of the builder, when there was the second and third return of the people of promise from the lands where they had been in exile for so long.
There we find the entity was the leader, the lawyer, the soldier, the director - Nehemiah.
And if there will be the perusal of those things that are considered as the messages of Ezra, as well as those of the activities accredited to Nehemiah, we may find much that is responding to something within as to the desires and purposes of the entity even in the present experience.
The abilities as the builder, the abilities as to judge, as to the thought and as to the ability of producers in ANY field of service.
And as the entity then sought to give example to those over which the entity had authority, those who were willing to work, those who would work must be willing to work for the purpose and to work with and never FOR the entity or the individual, but work with towards the building of something within the mind, the heart, the soul of each entity for the GREATER purpose for which each soul finds expression in materiality!
So from those experiences there are the abilities in the present as the leader, as the director, - the ability to listen as well as to give the orders. These are innate and manifested in the experience of the entity.
Before that we find the entity was in the Egyptian land, during those periods when there were turmoils and strifes, when there were the divisions in the kingdom.
There we find the entity among those who were the counsellors to the Young King, when there was the banishment of the Priest and when the turmoils arose.
We find the entity then was in the capacity as the one who brought about the first of the considerations for the unifying of the land by the return of the Priest and by the acceptance of the activities of those from the Atlantean land.
The name then was Aar-Ptl-en. In the experience the entity it might be said saved that period of activities for the great work that was accomplished in the land by unifying all those in the political, the social, the religious influences during that sojourn.
Again we find in the present that the greater services the entity has given in this sojourn, that the entity may give in this experience, may be in the unifying of the principles of law, order - but under the spiritual and purposeful guidance for each soul to be accountable unto its own conscience to that call which rises from within as to its relationships to the Creative Forces or God, as may be expressed by its dealings with its fellow man.
Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land, during those early portions of the experience when the activities of the sun were turned materially into such influences as to give into man's experience much of that which we know or understand as habit in the present.
The entity was of the children of the Law of One who preached against, but with the activities as brought about destructive forces made as it were the expression in the present as the entity may give, - that every one is dependent upon the other throughout its material sojourn.
Yet each must stand upon its own bottom, - each must give an account unto that which is the motivative force within that prompts its activity.
As to the abilities of the entity in the present, then, and that to which it may attain, and how:
As has been indicated, use that thou hast in hand in thine endeavor to bring to the awareness of each entity its relationship to the Creative Forces or God; and that each must give an account ITSELF unto that consciousness within!
For these are the manners, as the entity comprehends, - TRUTH needs no JUSTIFICATION but GLORIFICATION in the lives of the individuals who proclaim or profess same!
We are through for the present.
Copy to Self through Miss [1612]
Copy to Ass'n file

BACKGROUND

See 1767-1, a Physical Reading. At the same time he made another appointment for a Physical Reading for his wife, but changed it for this Life Reading [1767-2] on himself. On 6/09/38 See 1612-1, Par. 38-A saying [1767] had been her son in Egypt-Atlantis; her companion in Palestine.

REPORTS

1/12/39 EC's letter to [1612]:
Dear Miss [1612]:
Just hope the information as has been gotten proves helpful in each case - am anxious to know just what was thought of the last reading [1767-2] - will appreciate your giving me any comments - if you will.
Thanking you again and again for everything.
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce
1/26/39 Miss [1612]'s letter to EC: "...Mr. [1767] is much upset now and will probably be away for about a month. The other readings were very good. When he is more settled in his mind he will go into it more fully. Please let me know when you are in New York so that we might have another luncheon..."
1/28/39 EC's letter to Miss [1612]: "...Am sure everything is upsetting for Mr. [1767] just now. I hope that time and serious meditation will adjust everything for him. Please remember me very kindly to him..."
8/14/39 Miss [1612]'s wire: "Need your help for [1767]. Coronary Thrombosis; confidential."
8/15/39 HLC's wire: "Father temporarily away. Advise address for Sunday afternoon."
8/20/39 See 1767-3, a Ck Physical Reading.
8/07/52 Miss [1612]'s reply to Questionnaire in re Mr. [1767]:
In going back over the years..." '91 changes - ..." Do you know of any changes that came about in 1891 that might have prompted the comment? Probably a business advancement.
Do you consider the following quote accurate? "One that knows most of the time that it desires, and sets about to gain same. This does not mean that the entity is a plodder, but rather a doer of that it has and does set itself to do." Yes.
Would you kindly comment on the accuracy of the following quotations taken from Mr. [1767]'s Life Reading? Was he "democratic" in his ideas - freedom of thought, freedom of activity, freedom of choice? Yes.
Would you say the following quote is accurate? "One interested in those things that are of the scientific nature, yet one that might be said to be very skeptical along any endeavor unless there are the material manifestations as would justify the truth in any mental, spiritual or fantastic idea or ideal?" Yes.
"One tender-hearted in its dealings with its fellow man...?" True or untrue? True.
"One inclined to give credit where credit is due, irrespective of the position of the doer?" Accurate? VERY accurate.
"One naturally intent upon spiritual things, yet seeking positive proof within its experience."? Correct? Correct.
"One that must ever keep romance as a part of its everyday experience. For whether it be in associations with the fellow man in business, in political activity, in social, in martial or in whatever relationship, when the romance is gone, to the entity it has lost its purpose, its value, - that relationship." Do you consider this true? Yes.
Did he deal with large numbers of individuals in his activities? Yes.
Did he have marked leadership abilities? Very.
One in whom - or in which all of self and self's personalities may be waged for an ideal in its dealings and associations with others. Yes.
(I do not have a copy of the life reading made for Mr. [1767] but from many years of acquaintance with him I am able to answer the above questions -
Sincerely, [1612])
5/57 Gina Cerminara, in her book THE WORLD WITHIN, page 118, refers to Mr. [1767] and Miss [1612] as follows:
"An interesting case of a previous mother-son relationship is to be seen in the case of a famous and wealthy American industrialist who was refused a divorce by his wife for many years. Unable to win his freedom, he proceeded to live with and support another woman with whom he had a deep bond of sympathy and understanding, a woman of quick intelligence and wide culture. She was his confidante in matters of business and was solicitous both of his health and his tastes in food. She was told: 'In the Atlantean sojourn, he was the son of the entity. And the whole of the relationship in the present often bears just that same aspect, as the enity mothers his ideas and his welfare.'"