9/23/57 Dr. Niels Troost [Engineer], P.O. Box 1091,
Johannesburg, So. Africa, to Edgar Evans Cayce, Va.
Beach, Va.:
"Thank you for your letter of June 5, 1957, and also for
all the other information you have given us, notably the
collection on carbon ash, which, I gather, you prepared.
[2/57 Selections on ANIMATED ASH for Sponsoring Members of
A.R.E.]. I am sorry that this reply to your letter has been
so long delayed. I had hoped to be able by now to answer
some, if not all, the questions you have put, but I am afraid
this is not so, because of one reason and another. Let me
elaborate.
"We [wife Gwen and I] became interested in the Ash when we
hoped to help her mother who was given up as a hopeless case
by the medical profession about this time last year. We had
only limited information on this material, in the form of the
preliminary selections the A.R.E. sent us, and from this we
attempted to produce the material, but were not successful.
"When your later selections came along, we started again,
this time, I think, on the right track, and we did produce
what I feel is the correct carbon ash. It is quite an
elaborate business and it took quite some weeks of effort
to assemble and have made all the equipment required, and to
get it to operate satisfactorily. I shall describe it to you
briefly, but before doing so, I have to tell you regretfully
that the purpose for which we started to make the Ash did
not succeed - my wife's mother passed away the very next day
after we had made the first quantum of what I can truthfully
describe as proper Ash. I am afraid it was truly a hopeless
case, because the trouble was unknown to us until it was very
far gone.
"To make the Ash I obtained first of all a very large arc
lamp, such as is used in printing copies from tracings in
drawing offices. This lamp is of German manufacture and uses
1/2" dia carbons. It consumes about
10-12 amps when normally
operating with about
50-70 volts (A.C.) across the arc and
is fitted with a current regulating external choke. It has
an automatic feed arrangement but only to the extent of one
(top) carbon, the bottom carbon being fired, but as this
latter electrode is consumed very slowly compared to the
top one the arrangement gives about a 24-hour run before
requiring a refill. The arc is enclosed in a pyrex glass,
of course, which serves to collect the ash, as it forms.
"This whole contraption I had fitted into a vacuum tight
case, which I had especially made to fit and which has
connections for taking the leads, a pressure gauge, a
pressure switch, and a vacuum pump connection. Outside I
then have a fairly large capacity vacuum pump, electrically
driven, which is stopped and started by the pressure switch,
and on the electrical side, beside the choke, I have a
transformer (2 kVA, auto-) to give me either 110, or better
165 V, from our 220 V. mains. The only item I am not
altogether satisfied with is the pressure switch. The best
single switch I have been able to get is capable of being set
only at about
5-6 ins. pressure difference, i.e. if set at
17 ins. vacuum to cut in the motor (i.e. 7 1/2 ins. also
on our 24 1/2 ins. barometer at 5700 ft. altitude) it will
not cut out at less than 22 to 23 ins., i.e. I am operating
at between 75% and 95% vacuum, based on sea level, 30",
barometer. This, I feel, is perhaps rather more than Mr.
Cayce's readings would have tolerated but to effect an
improvement it will be necessary to go to two switches, one
to cut in and one to cut out, with all the complications on
the electrical side this entails. This for the future. To
finish off I might add that the whole equipment must amount
in weight to 300 or 500 lbs., and that by now I must have
about $1,000 (one thousand dollars invested in it. Hence
my remark earlier that it is quite an elaborate business.
"The other thing that I am not quite satisfied with concerns
the operation of the equipment. I have it installed in the
basement of my city office where there are cars, electrical
supplies, a heating and ventilating plant, including a
heating boiler, attendants, ash removal arrangements, etc. in
the neighborhood. The readings stress the necessity for pure
air. Now whilst the air into this vacuum container is pretty
well filtered (I rely on leakage which is small) it can
nevertheless not be said to comply with the description pure.
At present I have no alternative accommodation, a state of
affairs I hope to remedy shortly.
"Regarding production of Ash, the core of the carbons and
amounts of power input makes this relatively good. I seem
to get rather more than the readings' one grain per day,
2-3 grains per 24 hours seems to be about right for my
conditions. One regrettable item is the fact that the self
feeding mechanism of the lamp tends to give rise to some
scrapings of carbon mixed with the Ash. I do not know how
to overcome this problem, which is fortunately not so bad as
most of these carbon granules can be dropped out of the glass
before the carbon ash is scraped off the sides. However,
some contamination remains. This is not serious but does
affect the weights afterwards, when it comes to weighing off
quantities. It also makes the color darker than it would be.
"I have not yet had the Ash tested for its properties.
I cannot imagine that chemically it contains any other
constituents than the original carbon and air does. I have
not yet tested it for radio activity - which must be slight,
if any, or for its effect on a photographic plate. The
laboratory facilities at my disposal for this purpose are
very limited at the moment, and through one reason and
another my time is also very much occupied. However,
all things come in due course.
"I am enclosing a one grain sample of the Ash for you, so you
can see what it looks like. It is not sealed so it may have
lost its properties by now but this does not appear to affect
its appearance. In this very dry climate of ours it is
doubtful if appreciable deterioration would occur over a
few weeks, even if the Ash was only wrapped in paper.
"From the readings I get the impression that, of the two
ashes, carbon and bamboo, the former is the more powerful.
Hence, since our first unsuccessful experiments, I have not
tried again to make bamboo ash.
"I have not had the material analyzed, as already mentioned,
nor have I done any other experiments with it. Thus
far I have only made it. Other than this I can give
no information. I hope all this is some use to you.
"With very best wishes to you and all the A.R.E.,"
Very sincerely yours, Niels Troost
10/15/57 Mr. Boegehold's letter to ARE:
ALFRED L. BOEGEHOLD
3742 ERIE DRIVE
ORCHARD LAKE, MICHIGAN
Miss Grace Huffman [Membership Secretary]
Association for Research and Enlightenment
Virginia Beach, Va.
Dear Miss Huffman:
I am returning herewith file copy of selections from Edgar
Cayce readings marked 325 Cancer.
It is now twenty years since the last reference to the use
of carbon arc light for the production of "carbon Ash". I
suspect that trace elements other than carbon which were
present in the carbon electrodes or in the material used for
the core of the cored electrode which were responsible for
formation of the white ash. Oxidation of pure carbon would
produce only a gas - carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide so
the white ash is obviously the oxide of some metallic or non
metallic impurity in the carbon electrode. The important
question then is - whether carbon electrodes as made today
contain the same impurities as they did 20 years ago.
Manufacturing processes are continually being changed. I
know this well because I have spent my life finding ways
of making such changes. If bamboo contains the essential
ingredients then I presume that pulverized bamboo fibre could
be used to replace the core of a carbon electrode and used in
an arc lamp to produce the desired ash. I would appreciate
it if you would let me know whether there have been any
recent attempts to make carbon ash and whether curative
properties were obtained.
Very truly yours, [signed] A. L. Boegehold
10/29/57 FROEHLING & ROBERTSON, INC.
INSPECTION ENGINEERS . CHEMISTS . BACTERIOLOGISTS
SINCE 1881
BRANCH LABORATORIES NORFOLK, CHARLOTTE, RALEIGH, WASHINGTON,
BALTIMORE
MAIN OFFICE & LABORATORIES 814 WEST CARY STREET RICHMOND,
VIRGINIA
RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
MR. EDGAR E. CAYCE
OCEANA, VIRGINIA
DEAR SIR:
WE HAVE RECEIVED A SMALL SAMPLE OF CARBON DEPOSITS FROM OUR
NORFOLK BRANCH AND ARE WRITING TO REQUEST A MORE COMPLETE
DESCRIPTION OF THE TROUBLE EXPERIENCED.
WE ARE NOT CERTAIN THAT WE ARE IN A POSITION TO ACCEPT
THE ASSIGNED BUT ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL GIVE IT
EVERY CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE COME TO A DECISION
OR AN ESTIMATE OF COSTS INVOLVED.
THANKING YOU, WE ARE
VERY TRULY YOURS,
FROEHLING & ROBERTSON, INC.
[signed] J. M. Weaver CHIEF CHEMIST [JMW/ed]
cc F&R, NORFOLK, VA.
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Concrete Institute . American Council of Commercial
Laboratories . Virginia Academy of Science . American Road
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10/30/57 Edgar Evans Cayce letter to Mr. Boegehold:
300 Michigan Av
Oceana, Va.
Mr. Alfred L. Boegehold
3742 Erie Drive
Orchard Lake, Michigan
Dear Mr. Boegehold:
Your letter to Miss Huffman % ARE was referred to me for
reply.
For many years now there has been no work done on producing
or using carbon ash or animated ash. Note that two different
products are specified. Bamboo or animated ash is bamboo
burned in a carbon arc. Carbon ash is the residue that
collects on the glass globe when carbons are burned in a
near vacuum.
I agree that the "carbon ash" is probably trace elements or
carbon compounds, rather than carbon itself. You raise an
interesting point as to whether the carbons now used are the
same as those of 20 yrs ago, or whether the by products of
same would be the same. I don't know.
I enclose some extracts from the readings describing the
production of both animated and carbon ash.
Also enclosed is a copy of a letter from a Neils Throost of
S. Africa who has produced some ash. The sample he sent is
now being analyzed to determine its composition. The report
is not yet available from the laboratory.
It would be interesting for someone else to make up some of
this ash, and see if (by laboratory analyses) the composition
was similar to that made by Troost.
Of course the final test would be to try it as suggested in
some of readings and see if it had any effect. If you are
interested in making up any I have a friend in the zoology
dept of a university who could try it on animals.
I hope the above information will be of help or interest
to you. Hugh Lynn, my brother, usually asks that I answer
inquiries of technical nature. I have a degree in electrical
engineering (now employed by local power co.) and am a
registered professional engineer in State of Va.
Sincerely, Edgar E. Cayce
11/22/57 FROEHLING & ROBERTSON, INC.
INSPECTION ENGINEERS . CHEMISTS . BACTERIOLOGISTS
SINCE 1881
BRANCH LABORATORIES NORFOLK, CHARLOTTE, RALEIGH, WASHINGTON,
BALTIMORE
MAIN OFFICE & LABORATORIES 814 WEST CARY STREET RICHMOND,
VIRGINIA
RICHMOND, VIRGINIA
MR. EDGAR E. CAYCE
ASSOCIATION FOR RESEARCH AND ENLIGHTENMENT, INC.
VIRGINIA BEACH, VIRGINIA
DEAR SIR:
WITH REFERENCE TO OUR CHEMICAL ANALYSIS OF THE SMALL SAMPLE
OF CARBON DEPOSITS SUBMITTED THROUGH OUR NORFOLK BRANCH, WE
ARE EXPERIENCING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF DIFFICULTY DUE TO
THE VERY LIMITED QUANTITY OF SAMPLE AVAILABLE (50 mg) AND THE
SMALLER AMOUNT OF ASH ON WHICH THE ANALYSIS MUST BE MADE FOR
ELEMENTS OTHER THAN CARBON.
WILL YOU KINDLY ADVISE US AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ANY ADDITIONAL
AMOUNT OF SAMPLE CAN BE SENT TO US? IF SO, WOULD YOU
PLEASE FORWARD IT DIRECTLY TO THE WRITER AT YOUR EARLIEST
CONVENIENCE. WE MAY BE UNABLE TO COMPLETE OUR ANALYSIS
UNLESS ADDITIONAL MATERIAL IS AVAILABLE.
VERY TRULY YOURS,
FROEHLING & ROBERTSON, INC.
[signed] J. M. Weaver CHIEF CHEMIST [JMW/ed]
cc F&R, NORFOLK, VA.
11/27/57 Edgar Evans Cayce's letter to Mr. Weaver:
300 Michigan Ave.
Oceana, Va.
Mr. J. M. Weaver
Froehling and Robertson
814 West Cary St.
Richmond, Va.
Dear Mr. Weaver:
Reference your letter of 22 Nov. requesting an additional
sample of ash:
This ash is produced by burning two carbons in a near vacuum.
It is the residue that collects on the glass globe after such
combustion. This ash, the sample sent you, was not produced
locally, and we do not have any apparatus to reproduce it.
We were hoping to get an analysis on the amount sent, at
least a spectrograph showing what elements were present. We
will contact the individual who made up this ash and try to
obtain an additional amount, though the new sample probably
won't be much larger than the original as it requires about
24 hrs to produce a grain. (there were probably some carbon
scrapings mixed in with the actual ash deposit)
There may be some delay in obtaining another sample. I
will forward it to your office in Richmond as soon as it
is obtained, and if it is unobtainable I will write you.
Meanwhile I would appreciate any information you have been
able to derive from the small quantity furnished.
We are interested in knowing:
1. If the ash is at all radioactive
2. What elements it contains
3. What compounds or form these elements exist in in the
sample
4. Percentage or at least relative amount of each compound
and/or element.
5. Any other pertinent information that may turn up in your
analysis.
Sincerely, Edgar E. Cayce
11/27/57 Edgar Evans Cayce's letter to Mr. Troost:
300 Michigan Ave.
Oceana, Va.
Dr. Neils Troost
P.O. Box 1091
Johannesburg, Union of South Africa
Dear Dr. Troost:
I certainly appreciated your letter of 23 Sept. telling of
your work in producing the carbon ash. I have delayed in
answering it as we have been waiting on a laboratory report
of an analysis of this ash. Just yesterday the laboratory
wrote and said they would like an additional sample as they
would be unable to complete their analysis with the small
amount furnished. I was hoping to be able to send you a
copy of the lab report.
If you still have your machine set up I wonder if you could
send me another sample (sealed in moisture proof container or
capsule)? I would surely appreciate it as we have no other
source at present, and we would like an analysis of the ash
for our records to see exactly what elements are present
and in what compounds or proportions. If you do not have
facilities any longer for producing it please advise me.
I will be glad to send you a report of the laboratory
analysis as soon as it can be obtained. I wonder if you
contemplate any experiments on your own with this ash? Do
you plan on keeping your apparatus set up? We might be able
to arrange some experiments with this ash, if we had a source
of supply. If the latter becomes a reality I am sure the ARE
can arrange some compensation for your time and materials in
producing this ash.
Thanks again for your past cooperation, and please send me
another sealed sample of the ash if it is possible for you
to do so. We would like to furnish the laboratory enough for
them to be able to complete their analysis; this may be of
value in future research on this product.
Sincerely, Edgar E. Cayce
P.S. I realize that all is very true of what you said in
your letter as to whether the carbons now are the same as
they were 20 yrs ago etc. I don't know. It may be that
the ash you produced is the same as that described in the
readings, or again it may not be exactly the same. I was
hoping to get a clue from the analysis of the ash as to why
it might have any effect on cancer or similar disorders.
Maybe something would turn up that may fit in with what is
now known; maybe this will be all new. At least it is an
avenue of investigation and I don't think we should turn
down any possibilities. EEC
3/07/58 Analysis of Carbon Ash by Ledoux & Co. [see also under
750-1 Reports]:
LEDOUX & COMPANY (Inc.)
ENGINEERS, CHEMISTS, ASSAYERS, SPECTROSCOPISTS
359 ALFRED AVENUE, TEANECK, NEW JERSEY
REPORT OF ANALYSIS
No. 762885
Our analysis of the sample of CARBON ASH
From Edgar E. Cayce
Marked: and submitted to us, shows:
By Spectrographic Analysis:
Aluminum....Medium
Arsenic.....Trace-Low
Boron.......Low
Barium......Trace
Calcium.....Low
Cobalt......Trace
Chromium....Trace
Copper......Low
Iron........Medium
Magnesium...Trace
Manganese...Trace
Sodium......Medium-High
Nickel......Trace
Lead........Trace-Low
Silicon.....High
Tin.........Trace
titanium....Trace
Vanadium....Trace
Radio-activity....None detected [
10/22/82 GD's note: I
think the Radio-activity came with the use afterwards of
the Violet Ray in the areas indicated for "releasing the
oxygen."]
To: Edgar E. Cayce
LEDOUX & COMPANY, Inc.
[signed] A. F. Larkin
Spectographic Analysis of Carbon Ash by Ledoux & Co. 359
Alfred Ave. Teaneck N.J.
This sample submitted by Dr. Niels Troost
Silicon.......High
Iron..........Medium
Sodium........Medium-High
Aluminim......Medium
Boron.........Low
Calcium.......Low
Copper........Low
Arsenic.......Trace-Low
Magnesium.....Trace
Manganese.....Trace
Nickel........Trace
Titanium......Trace
Vanadium......Trace
Lead..........Trace-Low
Chromium......Trace
Barium
Cobalt
Tin
Ledoux Analysis based on following:
High
10-100% Medium
1-10% Low 0.
1-1% Trace less than 0.1%
Spectrographic Analysis of Carbon Ash by Nelson.
This sample collected by Elliot Nelson,
139-60 85th Dr.,
Jamaica 35, N.Y.
Potassium....60.0
Silicon......30.0
Iron..........7.0
Sodium........1.0
Aluminum......0.3
Boron.........0.6
Calcium.......0.6
Copper........0.05
Magnesium.....0.4
Manganese.....0.2
Nickel........0.1
Titanium......0.08
Vanadium......0.07
Lead..........0.04
Chromium......0.02
Molybdenum....0.003
Strontium.....0.2
Nelson analysis in weight % of metal content.
8/17/73 See Source File Key #1800-30 for Don Button's
research in A.R.E. Library on the ASH. See
165-7
Reports on ultra-violet rays.
6/04/74: This is an analysis of carbon ash obtained by the
A.R.E. Clinic in 5/74:
REPORT OF QUALITATIVE SPECTROGRAPHIC EXAMINATION
ELEMENT APPROXIMATE PERCENT
Sample A Sample B
Boron 2.0 2.0
Silicon Major Constituent
Aluminum 0.4 0.4
Manganese 0.02 0.02
Magnesium 0.06 0.06
Iron 1.0 2.0
Calcium 0.6 0.4
Vanadium 0.006 0.01
Copper 0.04 0.08
Sodium 0.4 1.0
Titanium 0.01 0.01
Nickel 0.2 0.4
Potassium 1.0 1.0
