Edgar Cayce Readings, 2067-7

Time: 3:30 to 4:10 P. M. Eastern Standard Time.

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GC: You will have before you the material extracted from the Life Readings covering the period of Jesus' ministry, and being prepared by [2067] present in this room, for pamphlet presentation. You will answer the questions which have been prepared regarding this work.
EC: Yes, we have the desires and the hopes, with the information that has been gathered. Ready for questions.
(Q) Can you suggest an appropriate title for the Christ Ministry Pamphlet?
(A) This depends much upon the manner in which the information is compiled; as to its purpose, as to its completeness and as to that it may accomplish. It would be best to leave this with those who would publish same.
(Q) The excerpts from the Readings group themselves around the following topics: a. Preparation of Jesus, His early life and training. b. Events connected with the "holy women". c. Events connected with the "holy family". d. Events connected with John Baptist and family. e. Events connected with the home at Bethany. f. Verification and supplementary material to Gospel stories. g. Jesus' blessing of numerous children. h. Events connected with disciples, apostles, bishops of early churches. i. Rulers, governors, Roman officers connected with ministry of Jesus. j. Additional events, not in Gospels, of especial interest to history. k. Philosophic teachings of great value to the Christian (new light). Would you include the major part of this material in one pamphlet, or how would you suggest it be arranged?
(A) AGAIN, - what is the purpose? What is to be gained from this, and that has not been accomplished in other data of similar nature? Is it for the propagation of propaganda for a group that is attempting to make a cult, or is it to supply the needed stimuli to all for service in the channels in which they find themselves drawn, for one or another cause? This depends, then, upon that phase of the approach, - as to how or in what manner this would be prepared for distribution.
(Q) Please suggest to [2067] the purpose of the pamphlet and the especial timeliness of the pamphlet (Christ Ministry) assigned to her.
(A) Why would you suggest a purpose for preparing a pamphlet when there has been indicated the purpose for which she is preparing same? This is superficial! This has to be reached before there is begun any actuality of preparation, and followed with a purpose, with a desire. Such cannot be prepared for anyone! It has to be sought. Such data are prepared by those who give of themselves!
Did the Father prepare the Master, or did the Master prepare Himself for the Father's purpose?
Then would [2067] prepare herself for that she hopes to give to others, or would that to be given prepare [2067]?
(Q) Why do historians like Josephus ignore the massacre of the infants, and the history of Christ, when they record minute details of all other historical events?
(A) What was the purpose of Josephus' writing? For the Jews or for the Christians? This answers itself!
(Q) In one Reading we are told Jesus' birthday was on March 19 according as we would reckon time now. In another Reading we were told that we keep Christmas about the right time, the 24th or 25th of December as we have our time now. Please explain seeming contradiction.
(A) Both are correct according to the time from which same were reckoned. How many times have there been the reckonings? Take these in consideration, with the period of events being followed in the information indicated. Just as there was the reckoning from the various groups for their individual activity, so was the information given as to the records from that source with which those seeking were concerned.
(Q) A Reading states that the historic events from the time of the prophets until Christ were written by Thesea, Herod's wife. [See 2067-1, Par. 57 indicating her writings were BASED ON the Alexandrian and the "city in hills" records.] Why did her children destroy these writings in the Alexandrian Library, and are there any of these writings left on earth at the present time?
(A) Her children did not destroy them. They were destroyed by the Mohammedans and the divisions in the church, who were of the Jews and not the Romans nor the mixture of the Roman and Jewish influence. There are not those records save as may be attained from some present in the Vatican.
(Q) Was Jesus as a child also able to perform miracles, as the Catholic Church claims, and was he clairaudient, clairvoyant, and did He remember His past incarnations?
(A) Read the first chapter of John and you will see. As to the activities of the child, - the apparel brought more and more the influence which today would be called a lucky charm, or a lucky chance; not as a consciousness. This began (the consciousness) with the ministry from that period when He sought the activities from the entrance into the temple and disputing or conversing with the rabbi at the age of twelve. Thus the seeking for the study through the associations with the teachers at that period.
(Q) Is it true that Jesus in His youth loved Mary, Martha's sister as a sweetheart, or did He never have a sweetheart?
(A) Mary, the sister of Martha, was an harlot, - until the cleansing; and not one that Jesus would have loved, though He loved all. The closer associations brought to the physical or filial love, were with the children - and not with those the age of the Master.
(Q) Please give facts about Jesus' education in Palestine, the schools He attended, how long, what He studied, and under what name He was registered.
(A) The periods of study in Palestine were only at the time of His sojourn in the temple, or in Jerusalem during those periods when He was quoted by Luke as being among the rabbi or teachers. His studies in Persia, India and Egypt covered much greater periods. He was always registered under the name Jeshua.
(Q) Please describe Jesus' education in India, schools attended - did He attend the Essene school in Jagannath taught by Lamaas, and did He study in Benares also under the Hindu teacher Udraka?
(A) He was there at least three years. Arcahia was the teacher.
(Q) Did He attend the schools in Jagannath -
(A) ALL were a portion of the teachings as combined from the Essene schools, but these were not the true Essene doctrine as practiced by the Jewish and semi-Jewish associations in Carmel.
(Q) Did He study in Benares also under the Hindu teacher Udraka?
(A) Rather that as indicated, - Arcahia.
(Q) Please describe Jesus' education in Egypt in Essene schools of Alexandria and Heliopolis, naming some of His outstanding teachers and subjects studied.
(A) Not in Alexandria, - rather in Heliopolis, for the period of attaining to the priesthood, or the taking of the examinations there - as did John. One was in one class, one in the other.
(Q) Please describe Jesus' contact with schools in Persia, and did He at Persepolis establish a method of entering the Silence as well as demonstrating healing power?
(A) Rather that was a portion of the activity in the "city in the hills and the plains." [Persian incarnation as Zend]
(Q) Name some of His outstanding teachers and subjects studied.
(A) Not as teachers, but as being EXAMINED by these; passing the tests there. These, as they have been since their establishing, were tests through which ones attained to that place of being accepted or rejected by the influences of the mystics as well as of the various groups or schools in other lands. For, as indicated oft through this channel, the unifying of the teachings of many lands was brought together in Egypt; for that was the center from which there was to be the radial activity of influence in the earth, - as indicated by the first establishing of those tests, or the recording of time as it has been, was and is to be - until the new cycle is begun.
(Q) Why does not the Bible tell of Jesus' education, or are there manuscripts now on earth that will give these missing details to be found soon?
(A) There are some that have been forged manuscripts. All of those that existed were destroyed, - that is, the originals - with the activities in Alexandria.
(Q) Did Lazarus visit other planets and spiritual realms the four days his body lay in the tomb before Jesus raised him?
(A) We haven't Lazarus here today!
(Q) Can you tell of angels, and visions, and dreams that strengthened Jesus, other than those mentioned in the Bible?
(A) If there will be recorded those signified by the periods of separation as indicated there, we will have sufficient for verification of this strengthening throughout His whole ministry. For, these occur at regular periods.
(Q) When did the knowledge come to Jesus that he was to be the Savior of the world?
(A) When he fell in Eden.
(Q) Can you give the name of the lad who furnished the five loaves and two fishes at the feeding of the 5,000!
(A) We may supply same, but not from here.
(Q) What publisher would be likely to take a book of excerpts of Cayce Readings entitled Bible Characters Now Living? Is this writing advised?
(A) Not advised at present. Revell would supply the publication of such. [Fleming H. Revell Co.?]
(Q) Did Jesus study under Apollo and other Greek philosophers, and was it through educational contacts that the Greeks later came to Him to beg Him to come to their country when the Jews cast Him out?
(A) We do not find such. Jesus, as Jesus, never appealed to the worldly-wise.
(Q) Please explain more about Mary being the twin soul of Jesus and her refusal to reincarnate, and her deity?
(A) We do not find such as even being true.
(Q) In one Reading we are told the Wise Men came from India, Egypt, and Gobi; in another Reading we are told the Wise Man who brought the incense came from Persia. Which is correct, and besides the Wise Men Achlar and Ashtueil, what were the names of the other two Wise Men?
(A) Both are correct. There was more than one visit of the Wise Men. One is a record of three Wise Men. There was the fourth, as well as the fifth, and then the second group. They came from Persia, India, Egypt, and also from Chaldea, Gobi, and what is NOW the Indo or Tao land.
(Q) A Reading gives Sylvia as a man stoned with Stephen, and Anniaus as a woman of the household of Cyrenus - are these names correct?
(A) Correct.
(Q) Teleman, in a Reading, was reported as being of household where Philemon was a servant - is that the same Philemon whose servant Paul sent back?
(A) Same Philemon.
(Q) Was Judas Iscariot's idea in betraying Jesus to force Him to assert Himself as a King and bring in His kingdom then?
(A) Rather the desire of the man to force same, and the fulfilling of that as Jesus spoke of same at the supper.
(Q) Is Herod the Great now on earth, and will he be located through the Readings?
(A) We haven't Herod the Great.
(Q) Was Mary and Elizabeth taught in a sacred grove in Egypt for a time by teachers, Elihu and Salome, that they might better instruct their sons, Jesus and John?
(A) We do not find this to be true. Their education was rather with those headed by the Essenes through which Zachariah was called as the one to and through whom would come those influences as became the forerunner of the Christ. These were rather in the Palestine land. They were in the Holy Land, and at Mount Moriah.
(Q) Please describe Jesus' initiations in Egypt, telling if the Gospel reference to "three days and nights in the grave or tomb," possibly in the shape of a cross, indicate a special initiation.
(A) This is a portion of the initiation, - it is a part of the passage through that to which each soul is to attain in its development, as has the world through each period of their incarnation in the earth. As is supposed, the record of the earth through the passage through the tomb, or the pyramid, is that through which each entity, each soul, as an initiate must pass for the attaining to the releasing of same, - as indicated by the empty tomb, which has NEVER been filled, see? Only Jesus was able to break same, as it became that which indicated His fulfillment.
And there, as the initiate, He went out, - for the passing through the initiation, by fulfilling - as indicated in the baptism in the Jordan; not standing in it and being poured or sprinkled either! as He passed from that activity into the wilderness to meet that which had been His undoing in the beginning.
We are through for the present.
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BACKGROUND

Subject of 2067-7 - "W O R K - Publications - Pamphlet on Christ Ministry."
See 2067-6.

REPORTS

6/28/41 [2067]'s letter to HLC:
Mr. Hugh Lynn Cayce, Manager Ass'n for Research & Enlightenment Arctic Circle, Virginia Beach Virginia
Dear Hugh Lynn:
This is just to say thank you for the pamphlet reading and for the privilege of attending the Association Congress - and to ask you what you have in mind for the Christ Ministry Pamphlet.
As you know, time is limited now for the work on the pamphlets, and since I want to give my best to the second pamphlet as I have the first, I must needs know your plans for it, its length, its purpose, and the subject matter of its contents, similarly as you indicated to me before I put the Essene pamphlet in shape.
You doubtless have in mind just what effect you wish to be made by the pamphlet, how it may tie up with the work of the Association, and you also know about how long, how many words or approximately how many pages you wish to have in the pamphlet to meet the needs of the expense of publication.
The Reading on the Christ Ministry Pamphlet, while answering other details, particularly regarding some of the subject matter, left the purpose, length, and arrangement of material entirely up to the Association, and even indicated that the questions I asked in order to get the viewpoint of the Force or Forces giving information, were foolish questions; so it seems that we will have to do this largely as we are guided inspirationally. I can follow my own ideas about the pamphlet if need be, but I am working for the Association and feel that they have their ideas that should be followed, and I am willing to operate that way at present. Please indicate what you wish done in this matter.
There is a possibility that occurs to me, and it is that we prepare a short and a long pamphlet on the Christ Ministry from Birth until the close of His ministry, taking as material the characters and events from the Cayce Readings during this period, giving what elucidation possible from the religious and philosophic implications from these particular Readings - with the purpose of strengthening the Christian life, illuming the Path, and giving supplementary and confirmatory information to that which we have in miniature in Scripture.
At your earliest convenience will you please let me hear your plans for the Christ Ministry pamphlet which I hope to get in shape shortly after I hear from you - the material is all ready to arrange and write in final form, according to your word.
Also, since there was no date open while in Virginia for check Physical Reading, would you suggest a time convenient? I will forward questions when you are able to do this. Mail is slow in ... and it would be well to allow possibly five or more days to reach me & as many for reply to reach you. Sincerely, [2067]
8/25/41 Dr. [2067] obtained a Check Physical Reading - See 2067-8.
2/05/42 Dr. [2067] obtained a Check Physical Reading - See 2067-9.
7/18/42 Dr. [2067] obtained a Check Physical Reading - See 2067-10.
2/05/43 [2067]'s letter to EC:
..., Vermont
Dear Mr. Cayce:
Just today a review copy of THERE IS A RIVER was sent me by Henry Holt Company to review. I will get at this at once. If you see Hugh Lynn please tell him. I do not think he wanted me to answer the last note, unless it was to say I do not think he needs to write to anyone about the review I am to write. I think they will be interested in the book and that is all that is necessary.
Now I have just finished the first draft of that wonderful book based entirely on your Readings, JESUS, THE ESSENE. It will need to be rewritten just as soon as you can get me the Readings with the questions I have sent in to you and Hugh Lynn. I want to ask help on the few questions, mainly for names, in the list I am herein submitting. If you have to cut out anything, please cut some of the questions on Judy, as I think the Christ ministry will be the most important part of the book, although she will have a very important part. I am very sure you will like the book when it is finally in its right form. It is an immense work to get in all the characters in the Readings in their proper places and to make them live as they should in a connected narrative in the Life of Christ. I have been working at it now for some three or four years I think - all the time I possibly could get - sometimes a whole year at a time. Perhaps you will be thinking what you want to do with this work, and maybe you will want to seek guidance in the Readings. I think Holt will take it, and I think we should not let it lie around, but as soon as finished get it off to the proper place, don't you? It is a book that all the Christian world should consider valuable beyond expression - it answers the questions and gives the information that most people are most interested in.
Will you try as soon as possible now to get the Readings on the remaining lists of questions I have asked you to help me on? If you were to write the book you would realize there are hundreds of details I should know about not given in the Readings, but I think with the questions that I have asked, the main gaps in the information will be filled in, and that the story will be most instructive.
Hugh Lynn wrote that you and he had just returned from a four-day trip to New York. I hope you had good results.
The book I am writing should sell very well and fill a universal need. The material in the Readings is wonderful, but difficult to arrange as it is fragmentary and scattered - it is a tremendous work - but the characters and the events are now quite familiar to me. The story will be a long one.
The people at Holts like your biography. They said it is "one of the most remarkable biographies we have ever had the privilege of publishing." I agree that it is very remarkable and most helpful.
Ever sincerely, [2067]
2/22/43 See 2067-11 regarding Christ Ministry book.