6/14/58 Mrs. [
2072] enclosed these "readings" for her [in the
above letter], by Zoe Nickerson. The case numbers used are
Zoe's and not EC cases:
Psychic Study #197 Personal April 28, 1958
Witnesses: /52/, /89/, /113/.
Q. You are studying the entity known in the present
physical incarnation as /255/. This entity asks information
concerning what has happened in recent months to it. I will
not clarify the question any further and will ask that you
gather the necessary information in answer to the question -
from the necessary source. What has happened to this entity?
When you have gathered all the necessary information please
present it.
A. We have already gathered all the information in a
panoramic life sweep, must go back and pick up the pieces
carefully and slowly, which might pertain to the causes or
reasons for the forgetfulness, the mistakes, the confusion,
the wrongdoings that have occurred in the last few months,
all being effects of a psychological problem created by a
quickening of the awareness and having also a great deal to
do with the location of this entity. That is all.
Q. Are you to gather more information or are you to receive a
specific question now?
A. Receive a question.
Q. The entity asks if she is being possessed?
A. We must receive all the questions at one time.
Q. (This was very unusual but nevertheless a number of
questions were asked at this point, these questions being
read from several letters that had been received from the
entity being studied. These letters and questions are on
file in our records.)
A. Now we must line up all the questions with the answers
already received.
Q. When you are ready, resume speaking.
A. It is necessary, in this particular case, to very
carefully eliminate every phase of the problem. Let us begin
by making this statement - that man himself has woven an
infinite tapestry of explanations for all phenomena, both
physical and beyond the physical senses. In this case, it
is also indicated that a clarification is needed of what is
meant by inside and outside influence. First let us say that
the spirit of man is his mental body, his thoughts. God's
thought can be defined as the "angels", God-thought of man as
"angels" but man was the result. This showing that our inner
thoughts are not always manifested as purely in the physical
as they are within our spirit or soul. Inside influence
can therefore be but our own thoughts form our subconscious
or the widespread of the Id. Outside influence can be the
strong thoughts of others impinging on a weaker will than
those which sent forth the thoughts originally, be they
incarnate or discarnate. Therefore, this entity must
understand that spirit is mind in order that a clear picture
may be given as to the inner mind, the conscious mind, and
the mind-thoughts of others which can influence those weaker
than the source.
Now, this entity has been recently exposed to a new
experience caused by an opening or an widening of the
awareness without sufficient background its meaning or
complete understanding. It is as though the entity had
looked into a mirror for the first time, not knowing that
man had limited the reflection by painting the back side
of the glass. Therefore, the material that this entity has
encountered comes but from man and all men are limited to
a certain degree in their vision their perspective, each
one of us having different levels. The entity here, itself,
could put down in words of its experiences and someone else
could be influenced by these words which are limited by this
person's understanding - the entity in question. See, then,
how the influence can go on down the line. When this is
realized the entity will stop and sift that which it receives
for its good only, for man was put into the flesh in order
to learn how to decide between good and evil. Another point
that must be brought about at this time is that evil is a
NECESSITY to understand good. The comparison of the two
leads to the right choice, for good by virtue of itself must
triumph over the evil.
As to there being an entity known as the Devil, perhaps this
can be clarified by a linguistic analyzation going back to
the ancient language of which Latin became the root of all
present languages. "D" - "of Evil"..."Devil" is only "that"
of Evil...no personification whatsoever was intended but man
has made it so. Man has made personification of many words
and thoughts by his own IMAGE-nation. We will wait for the
rest to catch up with us...
...As to the question in the mind of this entity as to the
source of this disturbance and the disbelief that it comes
from the knowledge either conscious or unconscious, this
matter can be explained through memories of its continuity
of life. Other experiences of which it has no conscious
relationship, yet are buried deep in the subconscious - the
same as in the dream life of which we retain very little,
and yet that experience is with us and can come back to us
in foreign language at any time...we mean in terms that we
would not recognize as being our own. This also has another
meaning which we will go into later.
As to the question of possession - no two things equal
can occupy the same space at the same time. If this were
a question of possession, you would not be aware of the
difference in personality - your own being completely
displaced to allow for the other. As you remember, you are
still in full possession of your own being but these thought
forms are strong enough to make their impression upon you
and cause the confusion. These being, once again, from you
subconscious primarily and because of a weakened will other
outside thoughts are impinging themselves upon you, likewise
because of the increased awareness. This is merely a step
forward in your development but you are not fighting of
the evil, you are crying because of it. It is up to you
to make the separation of that which is good. You are open
to receive all as you are not strong enough to shut out
or eliminate the undesirable. Therefore, until you have
reached this point in your development, accept it calmly and
objectively but separate. And if the distress is so great,
completely change your pattern, not only of thinking but
of doing, by diverting your attention fully to some other
object. If necessary, removing yourself from the vicinity
of such disturbance. We will go into that more fully later.
We must go back again...
...In the psychological realm which has its memories rooted
not only in this life but in many others, you are more aware
of the karmic patterns existent and you are suffering a
persecution complex, punishing yourself rather than moving up
in the light of this knowledge. You are keeping all within
you, holding tight and cramping your development rather
than letting it expand in a natural manner. Being torn
and squeezed by your fears and your doubts. We are looking
for the reason you are bringing this on yourself in this
lifetime.
...Simple... Too much emphasis has been put on the wrong
instead of the right and the evil instead of the good. This
entity should try looking for good in evil and it will be
surprised when it really can see clearly the necessity of
evil, at this stage of our evolution, so that the path of
good can be seen and easily followed. That is all.
Q. At two points during this study it was indicated that
something would be explained later, or words to that effect.
Do you wish now to go into detail concerning one or both of
these two references?
A. Yes. On the question of automatic writing, this entity
can discard this method of concentration for a while until
a better understanding of this picture is achieved. Not
that there is not value in this point of concentration, but
there is value in this knowing that the same results can
be achieved without it. Also, especially since this entity
is located in a highly magnetically charged area which is
conducive to rapid psychic development and therefore no
crutch would really be necessary for concentration if the
entity desires to use the method of meditation only and
thereby receive and categorize much information as comes
to it without fear and with the complete knowledge of the
co-existence of good and evil, of the entity's duty to learn
from both and decide between the two which path to follow.
Also, in meditation, to dwell upon strengthening of the
will, to forgive oneself and end this persecution which is
unnecessary. For all men have done both good and evil -
even the celibate, whatever that means - and therefore need
only forgive oneself and forgive each other as there is no
originality in sin.
Q. The entity wonders if her tribulations are similar to the
trials of Job?
A. Yes, of course. The spirit of God and the spirit of the
devil - the spirit of good and evil being the THOUGHTS of
good and evil - in conflict with each other within this
entity's subconscious. That is symbolical.
Q. Is it possible that a direct guidance be given for
this entity in respect to a specific teaching or method
of approach is concerned? Of spiritual approach?
A. First we must eliminate the psychological and the
persecution by outlining, either mentally or otherwise, why
such persecution should continue. For what things remembered
that deserve such punishment. With the aim of seeking what
good each one of these things did or created a good effect
of a wrong cause - so to speak - which this entity will find
has led to this development. The hottest fire makes the
strongest steel. Then we proceed to more calm and peaceful
meditation as the means of greater knowledge and development.
Concentrating on strengthening of the will to keep the less
desirable influence out and open a greater receptivity for
the better "spirits" - or thoughts - whatever their source,
and developing an ability to distinguish the two, as we have
said before, benefitting from both and choosing the good as
the path to follow. We learn from all things.
Q. In reference to strengthening of the will and overcoming
psychological problems, is there a specific line of thought
or a specific teaching indicated?
A. We will look around for this...
Nowhere is it defined very clearly. It is a matter of
development in itself in order to see clearly, however - wait
until we read this page here - of good and evil - speak to us
of good and evil in THE PROPHET - will help. And the other
are too complicated. A book itself called "Good and Evil"...
but it's very thick, we will wait for that later. The most
important thing is to be rid, as we have said before, of the
persecution and understand all that has been said so far.
Then we can proceed from there to reap benefits from his
increased psychic awareness.
Q. As a last question, how can this whole experience be
turned into one that will glorify God?
A. Wait a minute... Once cannot "glorify God" until one
releases evil. But this entire experience can be turned into
a valuable step forward by seeing that in the darkness the
light is kept. That refers back to evil being necessary to
show the right path of good by its contrast. In the darkness
the light is kept. This is the valuable experience. This is
the fire through which this entity must pass to become strong
as steel in its Godly purpose.
Q. In terminating I will simply ask if there is any
additional advice or information that is to be given
at this time?
A. We came through so many valleys. I think we have gather
them all.
Q. Thank you.
A. We forgot something back at this one place, wait a
minute... On the questions of possession and how one would
exorcise possession. We have already shown how no two equals
can occupy the same space at the same time meaning that is
the case of possession the self-identity would be lost or
pushed aside while the other took over, leaving no memory
of contrast or comparison by the self - only by others.
It is therefore easy to see why so many so-called cases
of possession have been cured by the shock treatment. The
subconscious, if not the conscious, of the entity being
possessed, being aware of the shock and not wishing to enjoy
that experience again - immediately withholds these evil
spirits or evil thoughts from entering their conscious
or subconscious mind. It is a matter of the subconscious
refusing to share in that experience in most of these cases.
In the true cases, it is very difficult to get rid of the
possession with the shock treatment as the matter of the
entity doing the possessing being created of energy and of
strong energy at that, does not or IS not affected so greatly
by the energy introduced for the exercising as that of the
conscious mind of the entity being possessed. Perhaps this
will make that a little clearer, to show that this is NOT the
case here.
Q. Can possession be good rather than evil?
A. Yes, in cases of true possession, but we were speaking
from the plane of undesirable influence which isn't
possession in this case. We merely stated that for
possession to occur the entity's own identity must be
completely displaced for the other to enter. There would be
no conscious knowledge of the change, it would be a period
of what would be called amnesia, but no knowledge of
the difference between good and evil. In a true case of
possession, it can be either an entity being possessed by one
better than himself of less developed than himself. In that
case it would no doubt be desirable.
Psychic Study #208 (Refer to #197) May 14, 1958
Witness: /52/
Q. The following questions concern the entity /255/ for whom
a psychic reading was recently done and are questions asked
by the entity to clear up information given in that previous
reading. The first question asked is that you explain what
is meant by "the widespread of the Id".
A. This is the area of the mental body over which the
conscious mind has no control. There is a little bridge
connecting it to the subconscious through which some very
unpleasant things can manifest at times. This going way
back into the history of our more animal-like natures and in
this territory are stored the drives that create unexplained
impulses inherent from man's early age and evolution of
the mind. This area is not all darkness however but it
is unreachable and we have - as we have said - no control
over it. What is there can only come through into the
subconscious by methods of evolution, by inherent tendencies,
and through far memory cords which may be struck at one time
or another as we progress in our learning. In this area
there are many links to our emotions, our personalities,
even our physical manifestation. From this area comes our
life/death instinct, the moods of destruction opposed to the
forces of good and survival through the father love instinct.
It is quite mixed up and that is why we designated the
widespread of the Id.
Q. The entity also goes on to say, in reference to this
psychic study, this: "My conclusion just arrived at is
- have I developed or crated within myself a separate and
individual voice due to my seeking within myself for answers
and then, due to my wonder, doubt, fear, and imaginative
faculty in endeavoring to understand IT, giving it more
and more life?" Is that clear?
A. Yes, that is clear. There is no question that more and
more and thought creates more strongly that which a though
originally created. Is THAT clear?
Q. Yes.
A. And it must be fed to keep it alive, which is what has
been done in this case. However, there is always a choice
of thought direction which was not clear in this entity's
mind upon this new phenomena and its resultant reactions or
occurrences. The fear was conscious and the conscious mind
is fallible in its interpretation of that, in this particular
case, which can be developed for good. This can be an
excellent channel once fear is ruled out. We are looking
for an allegory to help... On the conscious plane we do
not accept that which we do not want. It is a matter of
understanding that will take a little time and much work
to get it into proper perspective where it can benefit
this entity and all those about it.
Q. The entity also asks how she can account for certain
sound phenomena in her house which have been annoying her and
wonders if they could be, and how could they be, caused by
her?
A. This should be a welcome sign of the expansion of the
awareness. This is no formula to set a pattern of fear.
This CAN be caused by the entity's own acceleration in higher
vibrations which would cause these disturbances. It can
also be outside forces that are not harmful in any sense of
the word but rather a sign to indicate that the channel is
open for greater awareness and a direction should be set to
use this new sense for that which is good. Screen out the
undesirable. At test of the strength of this channel and
it is one which can be met clearly by an entity who can
discriminate wisely.
Q. I have some questions here that were neglected and
overlooked during the last study...
A. Wait a minute, there's something else. The unknown
becoming known, to the entity in such a manner as it has, has
clouded the importance of this new ability with a cloak of
mystery and the fear resulting has weakened this entity's
own ability to protect itself by asserting its own strength.
This she can increase with her study and understanding of
these forces and by a determined process of thought which
can build up a protection about her for a surety of her own
safety and of her own ability to reason and evaluate and by
placing more confidence in herself and faith in only that
which is beneficial and disregarding any forces which would
tend to keep her from the right purposes. It is a matter
of her own determination, her own confidence, and her
own strength. The same on these planes as it is on the
conscious.
Q. Thank you. I now have questions that I neglected to ask
previously. May I ask them at this time?
A. Yes.
Q. The entity asks if, during this period, she ever contacted
that entity who was Edgar Cayce by automatic writing or by
hearing his voice?
A. This hardly seems likely, although it is possible. The
only assurance given in cases such as these are pieces of
evidence unknown to anyone but those closest on the physical
plane, relatives, of the alleged spirit contact. If such
evidence were attained it could be checked for satisfaction.
This, too, does not prove actual spirit contact but a
coming together of certain vibrations that would relate this
information through a certain sympathetic vibration in the
entity's own subconscious or superconscious. An association
with etheric matter containing this information but not
necessarily that of the entity Edgar Cayce as such.
Q. The last question we have is the: "Can and should I
proceed with writing a book on the importance of studying
and understanding reincarnation and showing how it yields
solutions to present day problems?"
A. Yes, very important to do so as not only will it benefit
others but it will be an important building stone in
clearing this entity's own entanglements of the mental levels
concerning the awakening or expansion of this awareness.
This will help clear up many of the questions of doubt and
fear in the conscious mind of this entity. Yes, do it.
7/09/58 HLC's letter to [
2072]:
Mrs. [
2072]
..., Virginia
Dear [
2072]
Enclosed are the readings which you let me read. In the
general sense that any experience can be sued for soul growth
if we make the most of it, I would agree with some of the
statements in this material. Certainly she is right about
this not being a complete case of possession. O course,
it is hard to tell without knowing how much you wrote her
whether there is anything but good advice in the material -
in other words, how much psychic power is being exercised.
We will talk about this the next time we can get together.
You note that she says also that much of the material is
coming out of your own unconscious. As I have told you,
I am certain of this, but I agree also that there seems to
be additional material. More when we can chat about this
together.
Love from all here.
Sincerely, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:aw] Enclosure
7/29/58 HLC's letter to [
2072]:
Mrs. [
2072]
..., Virginia
Dear [
2072]
I have just had a letter from Robert W. Wilson, who describes
the very interesting work of a sensitive in France. I would
appreciate it if you would request information from her
as a test case. On a plain sheet of paper, write in your
own handwriting your name, the date and place of birth,
and the hour of birth if possible, and the words "Help
desired regarding mental difficulties."
There is no charge made for this information. From all
reports this is an extremely good sensitive in Nice, France.
In the corner of your paper put "Member of the Association
for Research and Enlightenment, Inc. in Virginia Beach,
Virginia. This will identify your interest. Address your
envelope to Mr. J. H. Perez, 39ter Boulvd. de Cimiez, Nice
A.M., France.
Sincerely, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:aw]
7/31/58 [
2072]'s letter to HLC:
..., Va.
Dear Hugh Lynn,
Your letter regarding the French sensitive has just come
and I have written only the information, and as you have
suggested, on a sheet of paper. It is being sent airmail and
will let you know immediately when the reply comes. It was
good of you to think of me and I am indeed grateful for the
opportunity you have given me.
I'll be hoping prayerfully this will bring, or help to bring,
a solution. I am much better, but "it" is still with me.
The longest period with the least amount of talk so far
is being acquired by cutting the voice off, whenever it
begins coming in, with the words "Not caring to think. Not
thinking," repeating several times, if necessary, until I can
get my mind away and on something else.
Had a card from Peggy Legrand [GD's note: 8/65 COSMIC STAR
carried an article D.M.F.T. FOR THE NEW AGE, by Gladys Baker,
which Eloise Franco says is the new married name of Peggy
LeGrand, the latter really being actually a nickname. Her
article had to do with chiropractic and particularly Dr.
Richard Van Rumpt, D.C., of Santa Barbara, Calif.] from the
Franco's and presume she has gotten to headquarters sometime
during her visit there.
Know Summer Classes are keeping you all busy right now, so
won't make this too long, but thank you gratefully.
Have the tape on your lecture on "The Meaning of Suffering"
with Peter Ballbusch's "Beyond the Curtain" on the back.
Both excellent! How wonderful to be able to have these
taped lectures for a loan.
You and Sally be sure to plan on coming up for a visit after
Summer School is over - WE are planning for such a visit.
Sincerely, [
2072]
[Handwritten at end of letter]: We're following the ESP-TV
program with a great deal of interest. We can get the
broadcast on our AM radio, but, of course, do not see it
- no TV. It is at least a step toward more general and
popular knowledge and acceptance of psychic abilities and
shall bring to light some interesting individuals, no doubt.
8/16/58 [
2072]'s letter to HLC:
..., Va.
Dear Hugh Lynn,
Enclosed is a copy of what I have today received from the
"sensitive" you suggested I write to. This was enclosed
with a note from J. H. Perez as follows: "Kindly let me
know if you can receive the messages in French; as they
are transmitted in this language. It would save delays and
efforts , if you could translate them on your side. Thanks.
To your service, signed J. H. Perez and date August 13th.
Perhaps if you would read it through at this point before I
make any comments it would help, but I imagine you would like
to have some comments from me regarding. But read it, then
I'll proceed...
This seems a bit exaggerated, unless I'm not able to
recognize the fact myself: "every day your whole body seems
tired, even exhausted..." I do find myself tired and taut
at times from a sensitivity in the dorsal region of the spine
(which treatments never correct, because it seems to be a
weakness, sometimes is shifted to a slightly higher locale)
or from plugging on at work that continues to present itself
to a point of extreme tiredness, but most everyone does this.
I have used peanut oil rubs, and Olive Oil and Tincture of
Myrrh rubs almost every night for a long, long time. Shall
keep them up because I know them to be good, and because many
of my habits have been based on your father's readings.
In the paragraph on color, the statement "through the
instrumentality of the human channel by which I will express
myself" - what do you make of that ? The whole, based on
that, sounds like another "spirit" speaking through the
"sensitive" to me.
Shall proceed to follow these suggestions, because no harm
could come of them anyway, and may, when I have taken a
snapshot, see if she can give anything further. Although
I know some French, I do not know enough to translate. May
wait to hear from you before again writing, because it will
take a little time to take care of the snapshot anyway.
Have ridded myself of any attempt at continuous talking by
saying "Oh, bother!" and "Period!" and endeavoring to keep
my mind from getting back on to any thought or phases of the
experience. Cutting short any phrase with these has helped
more than anything else.
Hope summer school had good attendance. Perhaps you and
Sally could get away for that visit with us over a Saturday
and Sunday the 23rd, 30th or 6th. Please suggest when.
Sincerely, [
2072]
[Handwritten at end of letter]: Had the last of the wisdom
tooth extractions this past Monday - six stitches to sew up
the hole. Some discomfort for a few days, but it is
subsiding nicely and healing. Hoped "the voice" would be
tied to that and am still endeavoring to get rid of "it" via
said extraction. One way or another it has to go! There is
no place for it with me!
You may keep the enclosed copy as I have the original and an
additional copy.
(COPY OF ORIGINAl letter [which was enclosed] to [2072 from
J. H. Perez):
To Mrs. [
2072],
..., Va. Nice 13th August 1958
Friend,
Space if filled with Laws of Nature which can give help to
the human being when the science of men cannot completely
reestablish bodily and mental equilibrium.
Scientists have already drawn from different sources in order
to create the necessary means to establish equilibrium in all
aspects of our existence, but, Heaven, very "obscure", has
not yet revealed all its powers to men.
To supreme knowledge which is a perfect machine, allows
the human beings to discover at any moment the "unknown
sciences". Relationships between the subtle and the
physical spaces are being established. "The Great Chain of
Solidarity" between the human beings of this earth and the
beings which inhabit the psychic spaces is the Great Doctor
of the soul and the body.
Friend, I wish to help you to equilibrate your feverish
condition and to fill your soul with the desire to live
in possible harmony with life.
Your physical body spreads badly the vitality in the body.
Your spine receives badly the vibrations emitted by the sun's
rays. This is why, every day your whole body seems tired,
even exhausted, as if you had made great efforts.
ADVICE. Every night before going to bed, for a whole month,
without interruption, put some oil on your spine with a
cotton wool wad, starting at the nape of your neck and
continuing right down.
Take a luke-warm bath immersing the whole body every 48
hours. Put three soupspoonsful of bicarbonate of soda into
the water. This will give the body the necessary alkalinity
to neutralize the excess acidity.
No doubt, friend, you have heard that colours play a very
great beneficial role which is still not fully understood
by men. Through the instrumentality of the human channel by
which I will express myself, it is through the colours that
I shall bring you one of the basis of recovery. The colours
bring equilibrium to the psychic human when they harmonize
with him. In your case the violet and some yellow silk.
Every time you feel your physical or subtle body contract,
put the violet silk on your solar plexus. The violet silk
will soothe fears, anguish and moral depressions. For
physical pain put the yellow silk on your liver.
After every use wash these materials and let them dry in
a dark place. While you are not using them keep them in a
place where there is no light.
Friend, I would like you to send me a photograph (of you
alone) as soon as possible.
This is only a first letter. As soon as I will receive
your photograph, I will write to you again concerning
your physical state and your inner condition.
"Faith is a strong assurance of the things we hope for, a
proof of things that one does not yet see."
I am your friend by the physical and subtle laws,
Nice 13th August 1958
9/03/58 HLC's letter to [
2072]:
Mrs. [
2072]
..., Virginia
Dear [
2072]:
Thanks for your letter of August 16th. Sally, the boys, and
I had a weeks camping in the state parks in North Carolina
and western Virginia. It was good to get away from the
telephone after a very busy and well attended Summer School.
The material from the french sensitive certainly isn't
something that could hurt you, and if you feel responsive
to it, I would follow up with a picture. Certainly it is
entirely on the constructive side. Perhaps it would be
better if you don't furnish any more information than you
have already given.
Sally and I have talked, very longingly, about spending a
weekend with you and [
1861]. It doesn't seem practical right
now. While I was away last Spring, I was elected president
of the PTA where Gregory is in school. I haven't done
anything with PTA for years and so have felt reluctant to
push it aside. School is opening tomorrow, with the first
monthly sessions of the Association in the evening.
More pressing is the fact that I am finishing up the last
draft of the revised chapters on my book, and it must be in
to the publishers this month. We will take a rain check on
that and get up to see you sometime.
Our love to you both.
Sincerely, Hugh Lynn Cayce [HLC:aw]
9/05/58 [
2072]'s letter to HLC:
Mrs. [
2072]
... Street
..., Virginia
Dear Hugh Lynn,
Thanks for your letter, received today. Perhaps a little
later on, then, you and Sally can run up for a week-end. If
you feel you can get away at some future time, won't you drop
us a card, or phone us, for it is very hard for me to know
just when an invitation could be accepted - you stay so busy
all the time. Don't feel embarrassed about doing it this
way, because I would greatly appreciate it, because we do
want you and you are most welcome at any time, and I'll tell
you frankly if there is any other engagement on this end.
If I get anything further from the sensitive I'll send it to
you. Have written her a letter of appreciation, but haven't
taken a snap of myself until this week. Will send her the
picture when developed. Have not, and had planned not, to
give her any further information about myself.
Yellow and violet silk are not available even in Richmond.
Now that materials are coming out of the chemical lab, Mr.
Silk Worm can almost retire. I presume silk is suggested for
certain electrical qualities. I told her I had not been able
to find it. It occurred to me that the Violet Ray might be
similar, after I wrote her, so I have been using it, less
intensely, over spine and plexus.
Voice still hangs on, and I have had my ups and down. I have
Eula Allen's tape here on "Possession and Interference" which
is very excellent. On it she speaks of a lady [
422] who
came to your father for a reading who was supersensitive,
clairvoyantly, I believe, in knowing what her neighbors were
doing at given times of the day, and then an inner voice
turned upon her. At the time of talking to your father she
made the statement that the voice was telling her at that
moment that a spider was crawling up her leg. If you are
familiar with the case to which I refer, could you send me
copies of the readings for her. This bears a similarity
that might give me some clues. If not, I'll write to Eula
to trace it down for me.
Glad to know your book will soon be on the way to
publication. We will look forward to reading it.
Our love to you and your family from [
1861] and I.
Sincerely, [
2072]
[Handwritten at end of letter]: Vaughn may like this news
clipping for the "World News Spotlight" in the Bulletin
although it is not known whether it is a PREHISTORIC animal
skull.
9/25/58 [
2072]'s letter to GD and her husband:
Dear Gladys and Al,
Thank you, Gladys, for the information recently sent. We
have always kept all the copies of the Bulletin, so had the
information.
Should love to have had a visit from you. Have not invited
you recently, because I've been up in the air about visits
from Hugh Lynn and Sally and Lydia. I had invited them both;
and both invitations, replies, etc., have been unsettled
for many, many weeks. Still have a visit from Lydia sort
of pending.
We are both back in church again. The former rector left
quite some time ago, and we have a very pleasant elderly
"supply" rector of ... [
1861] is back on the organ bench
and temporarily directing choir work. I have tremendous
confidence he has more possibilities in that field than the
majority of people in that church realize and maybe he'll
prove it, if they'll let him have it for a few months.
With his teaching ability, his musical understanding, his
knowledge of the church and its music - nobody but I really
know his potentiality. Our present rector, Mr. [...] is very
fond of him and looks to him for much information, so I'm
very glad the church relationship is smoother - [
1861] is
much happier being able to help.
It has been quite a while since I have written you, mostly
because I didn't care to bother or worry you with my
troubles, for both of you had tried so hard to help me and
had given me everything you knew; so I confined my "problem"
correspondence to Hugh Lynn. Maybe he has kept you informed,
but I am sure you would like to know where I stand without
going too much into detail. I may have something good
to tell you before too long, AND when I've conquered this
"thing". But, I've certainly had my ups and downs. Many
times I would think I was on my way to victory to have a
return of predominance of annoyance by the voice. The voice
never leaves me, in the sense of actually going away as
an entity might do who was free, but is always there and
triggered by almost any though that has been associated with
it before. I can subdue it with various affirmations for
periods, but it is never actually away and will slip in at
any opportune moment. Sometime, when I've conquered, I'll
tell you all I've been through, but without knowing there
is a victorious ending, it could be a burden and worry to
others. Today, something came to me which I feel kind of
good and tingley about because I believe it IS a solution.
I'll see and hope - !
I notice that Irene Specht and Robert Huffman are going to be
there for the fall conference. I do so want to meet them and
hear them, and am praying I can. There are many things in
their book [MANY WONDERFUL THINGS] which have brought me
through this period, which I doubt, KNOW, I could not have
come through, but would have been in an insane asylum by
now, but for the answers given therein. Let me explain
that later, too, for it would require too much detail at the
moment. Somehow I KNOW I'm going to come through alright and
conquer this thing, so I'll wait until the hour triumphant
and not bog you down in the middle of it where we don't know
the answers as yet.
Please send me, or have Grace Huffman send me, three
addresses: Shane Miller, Elsie Sechrist, Eula Allen.
[Sent
9/27/58. GD.]
Love to you both, [
2072]
Somehow I know you find it hard to understand why the things
given in the readings have not long ago dispensed with this
voice. I do too. And my faith in God and prayer and the
statement that has been given to turn away spirits - [
1861]
and I cannot understand why they have not worked; but
remember, this voice was "moved in" and talking within me and
went right on talking REGARDLESS of anything and everything.
The thought which was given me today as a solution may
explain that - it seems to. I'll wait and see.
[Handwritten at end of letter]: You take [2072 born under
the sign of Aries, as she is, and believing in God as she
does, and you'll know she's got to - she's GOING to conquer
this thing!
3/05/59 [
2072]'s letter to GD:
Dear Gladys,
Will you please share this letter with Hugh Lynn and Lydia,
because I do not have time tot write to them individually
at present, but need to know whether you have nay reading
information that may be helpful to me at this point.
My phone call to you stated that I had been having
recurrences of what I presumed to be "24 hour flu". Since
December 26th the nausea, vomiting and head pains have
recurred about every 7 to 10 days so that I have had 7
repeat performances and with this last I went over to
Fletcher Wright (a relative doctor) in Petersburg for a
complete check-up to see if the trouble would show up.
I was X-Rayed from stem to stern and nothing showed up but an
enlargement about the size of one's fist in the left lung and
a few smaller blips in the right lung. Blood tests and bone
marrow test did not show any leukemia although blood count
was around 65 or 60 and should be around 85, hence I am
somewhat anemic. Dr. Ruissi, who did the blood tests, and
Dr. Wright could only arrive at the conclusion that this
might be Hodgkin's Disease although some of the other
accompaniments to the condition, such as leukemia, swollen
lymph nodes in the neck or armpits or groin are not to be
found. A growth on the left lung showed up in a T.B. Mobile
Unit X-Ray in 1953, but since I had a cough then and got rid
of it a few months after I considered it to be remedied and
gone and did not go to a specialist as was recommended by our
town doctor at the time. Since the blip was small at that
time, it has evidently grown and others have formed on the
other lung - the large is on the hilum of the left lung.
Asking Dr. Harris (here in town) what such would be composed
of he said "a mass of soft tissue". Of course, they want me
to undergo X-Ray of Radiation treatments, since surgery would
not be advisable on the smaller growths (or whatever they
are). As you know, I am opposed to any of these methods
of correction, and have stated as much to Dr. Wright and
Dr. Harris, until I have exhausted more natural means of
treating, and I have told them that it has always been my
choice to go to the Hoxsey Cancer Clinic in Dallas, Texas,
which has treated and cured some Hodgkin's Disease cases, if
any of the conditions they treat ever occurred to me.
[
1861] and I are not accepting this diagnosis as the last
word. I am continuing osteopathic treatments with Dr.
Turman in Richmond who has relieved some of the tautness and
discomfort along the spine and in the head, but I still have
nausea and vomiting spells apparently arising from certain
reflexes due to gas pressures in the rectum or intestines
or stomach. These cause pains in the back of my head and
forehead and sinuses. I had just begun to consider these in
the light of Migraines or some other form of headache when
I went over for the check-up. I am past the change of life,
however. When the nausea spells come on I cannot and do
not eat anything for about two days, then I have to be very
careful with choice of foods; orange nog, baked potato, beef,
chicken, staying away from foods that seem to cause gas.
Please see if there is anything in the Readings that might
be applicable. Still have some pains in my head almost every
night or about 5 in the morning. At first I took Aspirin,
then Anacin, for these, but found when I left them off,
that a sip of water would do just as well and the pain would
subside in about 5 minutes, then found the pains themselves
to be simply intermittent, lasting not more than 5 minutes,
usually, so suffer them through now, since Aspirin, Anacin,
Compazine and even the Potassium Bromide tend to throw my
taste "off" and cause more vomiting or cause me to not want
to eat food which I need to build up.
Love to you, Al, Hugh Lynn and Lydia, and to Miss Wynne. I
hope she is feeling much better and our prayers and love go
to her for healing, although I have not been able to write
her as much.
Lovingly, [
2072]
[Handwritten at end of letter]: [
1861] is doing a splendid
job as organist and choir director of our Church. When I
get to feeling a little stronger, want you to come up and
hear him.
Special Note to YOU, AL, and HUGH LYNN to help put your minds
at ease about "my voice" - Since I have never mentioned or
discussed same with Lydia and do not wish to worry her with
it now.
Have much to tell you about this at a later date, but it will
be sufficient for the time being to say this is subsided,
under control, has no power or control over my mind any
longer, and I feel will soon be ineffective, in every way.
My outlook is constructive and optimistic and neither [
1861]
nor I are "down in the dumps" but know our hands are in Him;
our bodies, our souls are enfolded by God's; and we have
no fears, even though the ... [husband's business] is to
be auctioned off or closed this Saturday, the 7th of March.
It is up for auction Sat. at 9 A.M.
I have both learned a great deal and matured, or grown, in
my thinking in the past year and everything and everybody has
taken on new and beautiful meanings. I feel I have really
known a very close relationship with God and it remains with
me.
3/08/59 [
2072]'s letter to GD:
Mrs. [
2072]
... Street
..., Virginia
Dear Gladys,
Please send me anything you have on Hodgkin's Disease. My
doctors seem to be quite certain that is what it is, and as I
said I do not want to undergo X-ray treatments. There seems
to be no cure known in orthodox medicine. Prefer to try
Hoxay Center Clinic before undergoing their methods.
Love to you and Al,
Please put me on your prayer group list again.
3/10/59 GD's letter to [
2072]:
Dearest [
2072]:
We are so concerned over your apparent condition. Enclosed
you will find a copy of five readings given for three people
who were told they had Hodgkin's, and one reading for a
person who had pulmonary T. B. These are for you to examine
and see if you want to pursue further any of these courses of
treatment. I included the T. B. Case because it called for
the inhalant of Eucalyptus, etc., as well as the Brandy Keg
and the taking of Acigest and Calcios. If you pursue this
course of treatments I think you should have the last three
or four physical readings of Mr. Cayce as he was developing
the pulmonary edema (this may or may not be parallel to your
condition, but the adhesion - or edema as they later called
it - was on his left lung). A chloride of Gold solution was
suggested for him, by the way, and I notice it is recommended
in the Hodgkin's treatment, too.
So, you study these and decide if any of them are applicable
and then let us know if we can dig out more information
or help you with the details. Dr. Wakefield has the heat
treatments referred to in the Hodgkin's cases, but he does
not have the ultra-violet machine referred to - but has the
Infra Red.
With the theatre closing perhaps both you and [
1861] could
come to the Beach for a
2-3 month period for you to be under
Dr. Wakefield's care? or would it be more convenient to
commute to Richmond?
Please know we love you and want to help in any way possible.
Don't hesitate to call on us at any time. God bless you
both.
Lovingly, [signed] Gladys
4/08/59 Husband's letter:
..., Va.
Dear Al [Albert Turner]:
Thank you so much for making out our income tax things for
us. You didn't send your bill, so I hope the inclosed check
is sufficient for your trouble:
You probably have received a letter from Cliff Owens, saying
that he wants to come down on April 22nd to look over the
passion play possibilities in ...! Of course, we are very
much interested in this, but, it is hardly necessary for me
to tell you that [
2072]'s physical condition at this time
is such that it is most difficult to say just what she or
I might be able to do in assisting you to get started. And
while, under normal conditions, we would be most happy to
have both you and Mr. Owens stay with us; I just don't know
that [
2072] would be strong enough to undertake to entertain
someone who is somewhat of a stranger. In fact, I am going
to try to keep her form doing any unnecessary work when she
does come home and will try to keep her from getting at all
tired if possible, as she should rest and get her strength
back. As you may know, the medical men all say she has
Hodgkin's Disease and they say that only a miracle can save
her. However, we have not accepted this diagnosis, as she
does not seem to have enough of the symptoms that accompany
Hodgkin's. Zoe Nickerson said that the trouble in her lungs
was scar tissues and hot tumors, as the doctors claim, and we
are holding to this belief at this time. Never-the-less, the
strain on me is terrific and I must confess to being almost
torn between two different opinions, especially when my
doctor nephew begins to put pressure on me to have her take
the X-Ray treatments, with the promise that they can do no
more than delay things for a time.
Now, I don't want [
2072] to know that I have written to you
thusly, but, I would appreciate it if you could manage to get
Mr. Owen's visit postponed for a time, at least, or, arrange
such a schedule that he would not have to cause [
2072]
any extra work. Frankly, I just don't know how things
will be when she does come home from the beach, as you
can understand. So, I would very greatly appreciate
your cooperation in smoothing this thing out without
[
2072]'s being told about it.
Again thanking both you and Gladys for all that you have
done and are doing for [
2072] and me and I know the Lord
will certainly richly bless you for it.
Sincerely, [
1861]
5/02/59 (Saturday) [
2072]'s letter:
Dear Gladys and Al,
Have surely had my DOWNS and ups since leaving there,
although yesterday and today I've been stronger. With my
eyes off focus, it's been too much of an effort and strain
to try to write.
Radionics doctor, Walter A. Neil [D.C., Ph.T.] in Washington,
D.C., found only a badly congested gall bladder [Handwritten,
in margin: He said he found no signs of Hodgkin's in lung or
anywhere else, nor were there any STONES in the bladder.] and
sent me some concentrated food tablets to take 4 to 6 times
a day. They have helped, giving me the essential elements
in vegetables which I have been unable to get because of
the nausea. Today I started using the Zilatone tablets
recommended by the readings, and after a series of these I'll
go back on the Castor Oil Packs again if the nausea shows up
again. Not having any flannel, I used a thick towel and set
pan, oil and saturated towel aside. It it alright to re-use
this, or would it be rancid? I used it about
4-6 weeks ago.
[
5/07/59 I sent flannel. GD.]
Cliff Owen [Clifford L. Owens, in re Passion Play setting]
came. Liked him so much, but was so disappointed that it was
one of my worst days and I was flat on my back in misery, so
that I could not be up and entertaining like I had planned.
Would have liked to have met his wife and children, but he
left them at the theatre seeing "Inn of the Sixth Happiness".
He liked a natural knoll with background of pines and Mr.
Maben is getting information together on ownership, etc.
for him. Many here are enthusiastic about this possibility
for the future of ... Mr. Maben said [...] insisted that
it would have to be put here on an "integrated" basis.
Integration is not lawful anywhere in the state of Virginia,
so were better to leave that out and simply give equal
seating facilities. Forcing integration does nothing but
work with and for the Communistic interests in more ways than
one - how long must it take man to discover? The whole of
human society, from the beginning of time has been a class
society - each distinguished by its certain characteristics.
We do not put kindergartners in high school with graduates in
order to make them equal in mentality and privileges. Anyone
with any sense would see that growth must be according to
the individual and grades and classes must be gone through.
There must be a reason why achievement and attainment have
always been by personal and individual merit. It is a law
of nature, which if it were not, would bring about a garbled
state. "Brotherhood of man" ideal not being fulfilled need
not be laid on man's conscience either, for other races can
be treated kindly, but with separate facilities and equal. I
like what Zoe Nickerson said in a reading: Each race should
count it a privilege and endeavor to glorify itself. This is
putting the whole on a more constructive basis and aiming at
a goal that is good and beneficial to individual and group
development for all.
Gladys, would you let Bobbie Whiting [Mrs. Barbara Whiting]
read my Life Readings from the files. She is interested
in making a comparison of these with an astrological chart.
I sent her my chart and it should be an interesting bit
of research for her, interested as she is in astrological
charts.
God and His Love and Help have certainly been manifested to
me in my illness: Leland and Beverly Short, dear friends
of Petersburg, voluntarily came over and spent several days
with us, taking over the cooking, to "See that I got well";
neighbors have sent in all sorts of food; and the colored boy
who did not outside work last year came back this year.
Leland and Beverly are much interested in the A.R.E. and are
coming to Congress this year with us - will be driving us
down.
[....], [
1861]'s brother, is home now, having had a good
"clear" operation [for cataracts]. Any one want to know a
good eye doctor: All of us highly recommend Dr. McPherson
of McPherson Hospital, Durham, N.C.
See you before long.
Love to you both, [
2072]
5/24/59 GD phoned to see how [
2072] was. She got out of bed
to come to the phone. [
1861] is in hospital having another
operation on his good eye for detached retina. A practical
nurse is taking care of [
2072]. [
1861] will have to stay in
bed and be absolutely quiet and still for several weeks after
getting back from hospital. He made his mother promise not
to send [
2072] to the hospital while he was gone. [
2072]
says she had a colon impaction which she thought was from
taking the Castor Oil Packs. Dr. Harris wanted her to go to
the hospital for treatment for her headache and eyes - eyes
won't focus properly - but she thinks it is just an excuse
to get her to the hospital to give her radiation treatment,
etc. Naturally they won't be able to come to the Congress
as planned.
7/07/59 Husband's letter:
... Street
..., Va.
Dear Al & Gladys:
This is the first letter I have tried since my eye operation
and am having to rely on everything but my eyes, but hope you
can read it.
[
2072] spent two and a half weeks in the Medical College
Hospital, Richmond only to be told that she had a tumor
in her lungs, for which, Nothing can be done. She is now
confined to her bed and sleeps a good part of the time. Her
sister has been here helping to run the house and look after
two nurses and a cook, but she is going to have to return
to her home in Indiana and we have decided to put [
2072]
in the South Hill Hospital, where we hope she can be made
comfortable, as I am in no position to try to run things
here. I plan to stay up at Mother's for the time being.
Just how long [
2072] can last is a matter of conjecture.
I still seem to be unable to realize that this could happen,
but must face it the best I can.
As for me, I have pretty good light perception in my eye, but
the retina is still detached enough to cause distortion and
am waiting to see whether another operation is going to be
necessary, since Dr. McPherson said he would do more work in
the eye if the retina did not right itself. I do have good
hopes of eventually recovering the sight in it, however.
Please excuse this paper, as I found we were out of
typewriter paper and I did want to get this off to you.
Please keep us in your prayers that we may be able to bear
this seeming tribulation. Incidentally, from what Bob
Adriance told me, Miss Wynne has probably passed on by
this time.
Remember me to all of my friends there and will try to let
you know of any developments.
Devotedly, [
1861]
8/24/59 Husband's letter:
..., Va.
Dear Al and Gladys:
Mother tole me upon my return from South Hill at noon that
you had called. I am glad to say that your impressions of
last evening of [
2072]'s being better were correct.
Dr. Nuckless was in her room when we got there this morning
and told me when he came out that she was quite alert and
had told him of our visit yesterday and who was with me. She
had eaten a regular hospital breakfast and has been taking
nourishment for the past five days and has had three bowel
movements, when she had not had one since being in that
hospital. Dr. Nuckles said that if her improvement continued
that she could be brought back home with a practical nurse.
Last Thursday we took off her special nurses and put her
on floor care, as she was then improving enough to do that.
However, on floor care, we can keep her at South Hill better
then we could at home, as nurses are hard to get and we would
have to have a cook, etc. I asked Dr. Nuckles if he had
any explanation for what was taking place and he said he
had none. I told him that I knew that a lot of people
were praying for her.
Mr. & Mrs. Fuchs, who took me over, were in the room talking
to [
2072] while I talked to Dr. Nuckles and she recognized
them both. She talked more normally then she has for
sometime and asked me to try to clear up some of those mental
and confused states that she had been going thru with and was
so relieved to know that they had not been actualities. She
says her head has not ached for some time and that she is
in no other pain. She said she has not been able to pray up
until today and I told her that I understood that she could
not concentrate to do that, but that the Association, a CFO
Camp in West Virginia and many other groups and individuals
had been praying for her and she was most grateful and said
she would now be able to pray again, too. She drank a half
pint carton of milk while I was there and swallowed with
apparent ease. In short, I would say she was in much better
shape this morning then she was when you saw her last. I
told her how close she had been to leaving us and she had not
realized that. There does not seem to be any sight at this
time, but, I told her to pray along with the rest of us for
its restoration. The nurses and the colored nurses aids all
agree that this is a most unusual case. They never were able
to put her to sleep with such things as demirol [Demerol]
and they are only using a tranquilizer now.
You may read this letter to the Prayer Group if you wish and
tell them how grateful we are for their efforts and ask that
your prayers continue.
Love to you all,
Sincerely, [
1861]
9/07/59 Husband's letter:
..., Va.
Dear Hugh Lynn:
Thank you very much for your letter of September 3rd and I
am again writing to you sight unseen, as it were. So, please
don't waste your time in trying to count my typing mistakes.
I am most happy to report that [
2072]'s improvement is
continuing, as she has had no headache or nausea for 3 weeks
now and her eating remains heavy, to say the least. Dr.
Nuckols told me today that she was doing all right, but was
not giving her stomach time to rest, which is causing some
diarrhea. However, her face and arms are now filling out and
she is beginning to put on just a little more flesh now. Her
complexion is also improving.
She now talks in a quite natural voice and her mind is
showing that keenness which has always been one of her
characteristics, as you know. She says breathing is better
then it has been for a long time and that she feels no
obstructions anywhere in her body. Her breath, too, does not
have that peculiar odor that accompanies cancer. Dr. Nuckols
told me last week that "I am amazed". He said he thought she
definitely had a cancer, but does not now know whether she
still has it, since [
2072] has balked at letting him take an
X-Ray picture of her chest. From all indications that I have
been able to check, whatever was causing her illness appears
to have vanished as there is no pressure remaining anywhere.
I believe the voices were caused by the on-set of this
pressure because she says that she no longer has any voices
now. And while her eye sight has not returned yet, we have
no reason to doubt that it will not come back, as we have
already seen what is being called a great miracle by our
family, friends and many other people that have talked to
us about it. Then, too, if our friends down there at the
Association will continue to pray for us, as well as all of
the other good people that have been doing this, [
2072]'s
sight and mine, too, will certainly come back. Indeed, there
are no words that can adequately express our deep gratitude
and thankfulness for what God has done and is doing for us
and to all of those who have interceded for us. Indeed, we
are planning to have a service of thanksgiving in our church
in place of the funeral that had been planned. It is to be
hoped that those who love us will be just as anxious to come
to this service as they would have been to a funeral.
9/30/59 Husband's letter:
... Street
..., Va.
Dear Lydia:
It is about time to give another report on things up here
and am going to ask you to either circulate this letter among
our fiends there or tell them about it, including the Prayer
Group.
[
2072]'s progress seems to be moving along steadily without
any real setbacks. She is now sitting up in a chair for a
little while each day and Dr. Nuckols has finally told us
that he does not think she now has any malignancy, as she
is gaining weight and her blood has been built up to a
point well past any anemia, it being in the upper 70s. Her
appetite remains good and she has had no nausea since she
started to come back. She has had some minor headaches, but
these have been traced to chocolate and she has cut that out.
There seems to be noting wrong with her mind and we lean more
towards the belief that her confusion was caused mostly by
the drugs they gave her to relieve pain, etc. And while her
eye sight has apparently not begun to return as yet, her eyes
has cleared up and look to be about normal and we continue
to hope and pray that this will come when she gains more
strength.
It is no exaggeration to say that the people of ... are
hailing [
2072]'s recovery a miracle and they are pointing
to her great faith. However, I never fail to point out that
many have been and are still praying for her and that these
prayers have and are playing a most important part in it all.
12/29/59 Mrs. [
2072] died suddenly, while unconscious. Her
husband was with her. Several weeks prior to her death she
was well enough to be moved from the South Hill Hospital to a
nursing home in her hometown.
9/09/63 Husband, [
1861]'s letter:
Dear Gladys:
It was nice of you to telephone yesterday and I did, as
always, enjoy chatting with you.
Not knowing which of the Nickerson readings you have and
finding that there are two in [
2072]'s file that were given
at such close intervals, I am sending you both of them
herewith [See Par. R27 above]. I have no recollection of
[
2072] telling me anything about the one given on May 14th.
It is true that I always got the mail out of the P.O. box,
but, I never opened letters addressed to [
2072] and did not
ask her about them, as a general thing, if she did not show
them to me. However, I have discovered, since her passing,
that had she have told me some things that she did not tell
me, I might have been able to be of more help than I was.
If I had have known then as much about Hypnotherapy as I now
know, I might even have saved her life - not to mention the
alleviation of much of her mental torment. Just how I went
thru with all of this without breaking down myself would be
a mystery, save for the fact that I knew that I simply had to
keep my feet on the ground, as it would have caused that much
more trouble for others and my own self, too.
I suppose you might say that I am still having to keep on
going from day to day for the very same reason as four years
ago. Tho one blow comes upon another and I don't seem to
be getting anywhere and accomplishing little; I still must
consider what trouble it would cause my family and friends
if I were to just quit trying to go on. Nevertheless, when
I begin to wonder how much longer this will go on, I realize
that there are many others that must keep on going and I know
that I am far from being the only one.
It really makes no difference if you don't return the
readings, as they are of no real use to me now and you
are welcome to file the originals with [
2072]'s papers.
I must stop now to write to a very lovely lady, a Blackstone
doctor's widow, who is perhaps in her terminal illness in a
Richmond hospital. She has been fighting a malignancy since
long before [
2072]'s passing and has somewhat that same
sweetness that [
2072] had. I have never heard her complain
and she always had a beautiful smile for everyone. She is
Margaret Hurt and I know she would be helped by yours and
Al's prayers at this time.
Love to you both and thank you again for all that you are.
[
1861]



Edgar Cayce Readings © 1971, 1993, 1994, 1995 by the Edgar Cayce Foundation