Edgar Cayce Readings, 2328-1

Time and Place: 10:45 to 11:05 A. M. Eastern Standard Time. New York City.

TEXT

GC: You will give the relation of this entity and the universe, and the universal forces; giving the conditions which are as personalities, latent and exhibited in the present life; also the former appearances in the earth plane, giving time, place and the name, and that in each life which built or retarded the development for the entity; giving the abilities of the present entity, and that to which it may attain, and how. You will answer the questions, as I ask them:
EC: (In going back over the years from the present, instead of counting back one year at a time as usual, he counted back two at a time; as "1940 - '38 - '36 - " etc., until getting back around 1908, when he began to count "1905 - '04 - '03 - '02 - " etc. until reaching birth date.)
EC: Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or called [2328].
Rather interesting are the phases of developments manifested in the experiences of this entity; but these interpretations are chosen with the desire and purpose that this be a helpful experience for the entity, in magnifying the virtues, minimizing the faults; that the entity may indeed fulfil those purposes for which it entered this material experience.
For, the natural trend and bent of the entity's abilities are in those fields of education, teaching, instruction in all of its phases for groups and individuals, - especially of its own sex.
These as we find will be indicated from sojourns of the entity in the material plane, as well as from the astrological aspects also.
As the composite experiences we find these as latent and manifested urges:
One open-minded, free in its conversation or talk, yet sincerity is ever as something that is felt more than often implied.
One of broad vision, deep thinking.
Meditating deeply the entity may bring into its experience much of that which prompted its activities in other sojourns.
Astrologically, we find Venus producing that home loving influence; that very friendly feeling ever; that attitude of mothering those in whom the entity feels an interest; as well as the beauty and the abilities in speaking, writing, teaching, in the sense of the deeper feeling rather than the purely mental.
In Jupiter we find there are benevolent influences as to groups, masses; and the activities among many, especially those of her own sex.
From the Uranian influence we find those periods in which the extremes have been the rule in the entity's experience, not only in this sojourn but through others, - as may be indicated from the appearances.
As to the sojourns in the earth, - we find these have been oft; yet these alone here are given, for they give the problems as well as helps in the experience of the entity at THIS particular period of its development through this sojourn:
Before this the entity was in the English land during the Elizabeth era, or during the reign of that queen. The entity was among the ladies in waiting, as might be called, though not as a servant, - and in the name Beth (or called Beth) Manning.
Those activities and periods in the social as well as the many conditions which arose that were of a tragic nature, during the entity's sojourn in that land, brought much of the wonderment and yet development. For, the entity was one who kept rather the balance between the extremes, - yet saw both in the experience. The entity was able to give and take counsel among not only her own sex then but among many who were in those positions where they attempted to take advantage of conditions which arose during that experience.
Hence in the present we find the entity a very quick and a very good judge of human nature; intuitive feelings the entity has towards individuals, towards the various sects or groups, - whether in the political, social, economic, or in sects of any nature.
The entity gained throughout that experience.
Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land, during those periods of the reign of Queen Hatshetput (?). The entity was among the daughters of that queen, and especially that one given to direct the service in the Temple of the Sun; and in those activities through which the entity, with its companions and associates at the time, made for the great economic development in the land.
Hence we find the entity's interest in the present pertaining to all characters of situations among peoples of various lands, or peoples of various groups. And the entity is capable, and usually very well qualified, to pass opinions on same.
The abilities to teach, and the peculiar intents or trends towards its religious life, or its activities in such, arise from those tendencies that were a part of the experience during that particular sojourn.
The name then was Tek-la.
Before that the entity was in the Persian land, during those periods when there were the tenets being expressed from which there arose a great deal of disturbing forces, as well as helpful influences in the experiences of many lands.
The entity then was rather in the position of what would today be called an astrologer, or a soothsayer, or as one who led those in giving counsel to the peoples of many lands, as well as in assisting in the teachings of the day; but rather in opposition - in the end - to those things that were taught by Uhjltd, the teacher.
Hence the confusions may be found as to intents and purposes in relationships to such in this present experience.
The name then was Su-She-Un.
Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land, during those turmoils and strifes that arose during the periods of rebellions.
The entity was among the Natives who joined with the individual Native especially who arose against the King at that particular period; for the entity then was a director or teacher, or one who aided various individuals or groups; not as the mother, but the mother confessor as it might be called today, in certain groups or denominations or students, to that Native leader.
Yet the entity was powerful even through the reconstruction periods, but aided rather then in the teaching influences of the land.
As to the abilities of the entity in the present, then, and that to which it may attain, and how:
First, know thine own ideals, - physical, mental, spiritual. Know that the spiritual and mental, and the material, must arise from that which is of spiritual concept; for only the spirit AND mental are eternal, and only that of the mental that is spiritual in its concept - or creative in its relationships to things, conditions, experiences, places or individuals.
Then, as an instructor the entity may aid much; for the entity oft determines to do this or that, and holds to that ideal until it is accomplished.
Hence now first you are right, - don't act and then judge of the action afterward. Set thy faith, thy hope and thy trust only in that which is creative, - as in found in Him.
The law of the Lord IS perfect. It is not beyond thy perception nor thy activity. Let it renew the spirit within thee, and direct thee in thy going in, thy coming out.
Ready for questions.
(Q) How have I been associated in the past with my nephew, [2319], and how may I help him most in the present?
(A) The closest associations were in the English experience, when there was the wantonness expressed in his associations with those in the court.
Again there were associations in the Persian experience that were most helpful, for the entity aided in the healing - though resorting to the teacher Uhjltd's applications for such; and we will find that the resorting to the same sources in the present experience will aid much.
Then the greater help may be given by the instructions and the directions to those things that would aid the most - in the present experience.
(Q) With my sister, [...] [[2319]'s mother]?
(A) These associations had best be approached by her own life record and then paralleling the two; though in the English experience we find there were friendships.
We are through for the present.
Copy to Self - Air Mail
Copy to Ass'n file
[So sorry about the postage; am enclosing it. Also am sending under separate cover some data covering two of your incarnations here mentioned, - the Egyptian period in which Mr. Cayce was the Priest Ra-Ta, and the Persian period in which he was the healer Uhjltd.
We have also had a Life Reading for the Native who led the rebellion, to whom you acted as mother confessor. He is now Thomas Sugrue, a young writer whose first novel has just been published by Henry Holt - "Such is the Kingdom." Also under separate cover I'm sending his preface to the book he is writing about Mr. Cayce.
The above questions I submitted, thinking we might get more detail about your nephew. I trust this was alright for me to do. He couldn't be Henry the 8th, for in 1925 while giving a Life Reading for someone [See 1187-2] - in going back over the dates, the statement came that Henry the 8th was born into the world again on August 1, 1890. It was unusual for the incarnations not to be given for your nephew. Perhaps we will later understand why. GD.]

BACKGROUND

8/10/40 She obtained a Life Reading for afflicted 19 year old nephew, [2319].
8/14/40 She wrote that his Life Reading came with postage due.
8/17/40 "Believing in occult laws for many years, we know that this is a karmic debt brought on by misled and wasted lives in the past, but my sister sought more specific help and knowledge."

REPORTS

9/06/40 [2328]'s letter to EC:
Mr. Edgar Cayce, Virginia Beach, Va.,
Dear Mr. Cayce:
I received the "Life Reading" but cannot say that it struck any vibratory consciousness within. At various times I have had quite definite flashes of my past, and perhaps as in all matters of esoteric nature, we can learn more from within, than from any source outside ourselves.
I am sorry that I cannot be more enthusiastic about your reading, as I am sure you are sincere in your desire to help.
Sincerely, [2328]
9/09/40 EC's letter to [2328]:
Dear Mrs. [2328]
Thank you for yours of the 6th. I believe Mrs. [2328] that you will find like most others that if you will read the information several times, you will find more in same. To be sure your development makes it more at an avarance [?] or concise [at variance or less concise], but think you will find much that is helpful.
Know this our only purpose is to be of a help.
Thanking you and with all good wishes
Sincerely [signed] Edgar Cayce
8/09/41 Letter: "Your various notices keep coming to me, and I wish very much you would take my name off your mailing list. My $40 experience with Mr. Cayce's work does not lead me to want to become a member in any sense."
7/19/45 and 9/12/45 Gina Cerminara's letter to [2328] [Letter was sent to Mrs. [2328] at two different addresses. Both were returned marked MOVED - ADDRESS UNKNOWN]:
Mrs. [2328] New York City
Dear Mrs. [2328]
As you will no doubt remember, Mr. Edgar Cayce on August 10th, 1940 gave a life reading for your nephew, [2319].
The Association for Research and Enlightenment is now conducting a research project on the life readings given by Edgar Cayce, with the purpose of publishing a study on human destiny and human psychology as determined by past lives.
As we recall, you were not very much satisfied by this reading, yet from the point of view of our study it is a very interesting one. It would be of great value to us to know what was the nature of the young man's abnormality; and if you would be so good as to write us, describing it more fully, you would be preforming a very valuable service.
Of course, as you no doubt understand, whatever cases we use are used under strictest anonymity, so that you need not fear that his identity would be known.
As a fellow Theosophist I am sure you will see the opportunity here for contributing to a better public understanding of the laws of cause and effect known as karma. It is true that the reading was not as specific as might have been hoped; but even the fact that wantonness and selfishness in the english court had brought on a physical condition in the present is certainly of great psychological interest. The value and interest of the case to people who are just learning of these truths will of course be much greater if it can be stated more precisely what was the nature of the boy's physical condition in the present.
Can we count on you to co-operate with us in this matter? We will be deeply appreciative.
Sincerely yours, [signed] Gina Cerminara Editor, Research Department