8/20/34 EC's letter to [
2483]:
Mr. [
2483]
Indianapolis, Ind.
My dear Mr. [
2483]:-
I am in receipt of yours of the 14th and I was, indeed, very
glad to hear from you.
I do not understand why Mrs. [...] did not receive her
literature, as it was mailed about the same time as the
letter to you. Believe, however, you had a copy of the
letter that was sent and possibly the same literature, and if
you have passed this on to her and spoken to her, I am sure
it did just as much good and possibly answered the same
purpose.
There must be some other complication that would induce the
physicians to advise her against going to the seashore,
either blood pressure or the metabolism in some way, and most
of them, as I have said before, do advise them to come to a
place of this kind. I do not know about Glouchester, though
we have had some correspondence with people there. There may
have been personal reasons, but as I have understood from
most of the correspondence, this is rather a dank, dreary
place, they have a great deal of fog at times, while here the
currents of the ocean run away from the land, making a
deposit in the sands along the shore in eastern Virginia that
are possibly different from any other place in the world. We
have the ores that come down from the Potomac and its
tributaries, the James and it tributaries, and then combined
with those of the Gulf Stream and Arctic Stream, deposits are
along the shores that contain a great deal more gold and
radium than any other place, possibly, in the world.
Should she decide to come to White Sulphur, that is not such
a great distance from here, and it might be possible that she
would run down for a week end or something like that, and we
might be of some help. Certainly hope we can be of a service
to her.
The conditions as surrounded the closing of the institution
that was built for the Hospital would be a long story. It is
one of those circumstances where internal animosity wrecked
what was possibly as beautiful an idea as might be imagined,
but when two of that race become jealous one of the other,
they usually grind the man between, as in the "nether" stone.
Yes, I believe the Association can be made self-sustaining.
If it cannot, I do not think it has the place in the affairs
of men that we might be led to think it had when we consider
just a few of the results from the information, but the data
that has been gathered through the years and which is on file
here and which has been touched only here and there, appears
to be very worth while. Just how this is to be done, I do
not know.
We are to have a meeting the 2nd of September of the new
Board of Trustees as has just been elected at our last annual
Congress. They are to formulate the plans and policies for
the approaches to individuals, to groups, to classes, for the
next year or the next three years. We have a Manager who
will possibly be elected again at this meeting, and a
Secretary. All of the work, of course, is carried on at
present in the office in my home, but it is a recognized
corporation in the State of Virginia, recognized and honored
in New York, which means practically having recognition
throughout all of the states. It is also recognized as an
institution by the Federal Government. Was ruled on in the
last few months by those in charge of same as correctly
organized, as an ecclesiastical, philanthropic organization.
They have given us a report to this effect.
Last fall, for the first time, in New York, we undertook to
present the work to the American Society for Psychical
Research, New York Branch, the organization that was formerly
conducted by Dr. Hyslop, who was a great friend of Beecher,
(I believe you lived in the home that Beecher built in
Brooklyn.) It was also presented to the American Psychical
Institute, headed by Hereward Carrington, whom you possibly
know. Both of these institutions, as you very well know,
have had a greater leaning towards what is called, ordinary
spiritualism, while this is not classed even by the
investigators in these groups, except a few of them, of
course, as spiritualism. We also met quite a number of
research workers that have been in very much broader fields.
Some of the sponsors of Krishnamurti and Mukerji, and some of
that ilk.
Just whether this is the right way or not, we haven't as yet
been able to determine, but I believe an individual who was
first convinced himself that the sources of information were,
first, sincere; 2nd, worth while, and third, ethical, could
take or could have taken the groups as were contacted and
have built an organization for research that was worth while,
for many of these as were contacted through these three
channels are among the wealthiest people in America.
Knowing your ability, especially in the acquaintanceships
among the masses, both in America and abroad, remembering
your personality and your ability to meet the people, was why
I made the suggestion. I don't know whether it would be of
interest to you or not.
We had at the beginning of the organization such a man [A. C.
Preston]. He, however, was more gifted along the commercial
order and not as capable in a social or even an economical
way as he might have been. He proved to be rather
disastrous, for he divided rather than unified the efforts of
the Trustees, and in less than a year had the organization's
finances in a bad shape rather than in a good shape. While
he himself couldn't be blamed, for he was taken ill, it was a
very expensive thing to the organization. But with the
proper presentation of the purposes and aims, there should be
no trouble in having an institution, either within or
fostering the work of this organization that would enable us
to do a real work.
There is, of course, the need for an institution, but I do
not think that it, the institution, should be a part of the
research organization, but the institution's records should
be a part of the research organization's records - if you
understand me.
We are planning to go to Chicago for a few weeks, possibly
the early part of October. Every day quite a number of
requests from Chicago are received. At various times have
had a very good membership to the organization in and around
Chicago. Have several physicians, M.D.'s, osteopaths,
naturopaths, and some of the others, who have been giving us
consistent reports on their work with the information. Some
of them have been as long as two or three years in the work.
Possibly, when we come west, if you do not find it convenient
to come down this way before that time, we can talk the
matter over at some length. We had some very, very good
friends there in Indianapolis - [
4126]'s. They were on
Washington Street for a number of years. They gradually lost
interest, or we quit hearing from them. More recently we
have had a request from a hospital there, or from a father
whose son was in a hospital, but before we had the
opportunity of making the appointment, he had died.
Possibly you might have some ideas that you would suggest
that we could present to the Board, and we could be laying
plans for carrying them out. Of course, this organization,
as every other one, I suppose, of like nature, at the present
time has no funds whatsoever; only that for the daily
operations, and it should never depend upon appointments for
readings from day to day, for there are so many channels that
I am sure could be made self-sustaining.
The specifics for various disorders alone could be made into
a business which should be outside of the research
organization, yet the research organization should receive
funds from the activities - such as, a remedy for pyorrhea, a
remedy for hemorrhoids, for arthritis, for internal
inflammation either in lungs or through the torso, an aid in
malignant conditions that is being used by some of the
biggest institutions in the United States, and they know just
as much as you do as to what it is, except that they receive
it in powder form.
Such things could be made sources of income that would
dispense with any necessity of relying upon appointments, but
it requires a business head and one who is capable of making
the proper associations and contacts and who know when they
have been made and how to handle them. Of course, all of
them become sales propositions, I realize.
Then there is the request for a report by more than one
publishing company, so that the literature end of the
organization could be made a source of income that - well, no
one could tell what it might lead to, but it needs someone to
be selected to present this. This, again, requires
management and the ability on the part of the manager to
know the right type of people to approach. Then there are
the Lessons, or the study group work. There has been
already a series of twelve lessons completed, and one-third
of another year's work. There are already seven or more
groups using these. This in itself could be made a source
of income that would sustain the whole organization, as any
one of the others would, and there are enough people who
have already signified their interest in a Foundation who
have enough of this world's goods to foster any one of these
or all of them, had we a head on whom they were themselves
sold to such an extent that they could present it to these
people, for many of these have personally received
information that has convinced them personally.
Then there is the educational and vocational guidance
department, that of itself could be made a department that
would supply information to psychologists, psychiatrists, and
teachers in various characters of schools, that would be very
much worth while. It is being used already by two or three
schools.
But think this over. I may be quite visionary. Of course, I
know your experience with all such things has been sufficient
to give you the proper insight into anything I might tell
you.
When you write Mrs. [
1982], be sure to remember me to her. I
would like very much to have her address. I would like to
write her myself.
Hoping, then, to hear from you, or to see you in the next few
months when we come that way, (if you do not find it
convenient to spend a few days at the Beach to consider the
thing more seriously,) and with all good wishes and kindest
personal regards from all here, I am
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce [EC:MD]
8/30/34 [
2483]'s letter to EC:
... St.,
Indianapolis, Ind.
Mr. Edgar Cayce
Virginia Beach, Va.
My Dear Edgar:
I have read your letter with a great deal of interest and
note what you say regarding your work. There is nothing I
would rather do than to promote you and your work for I
believe it can be of inestimable value to humanity.
You ask for my ideas. They are about as follows: Start in
any city and give a few free lectures and possible give a
short demonstration of your power. Then give private
readings possible for a few days. While you were giving
these I could go ahead to the next city & make the
arrangements for lectures in that place. By the time we have
covered part of the country we should have interested enough
people to make the work permanent and then establish
headquarters in some city, like Washington.
If you have other things to sell that would help pay
expenses, in the beginning I would want only enough to live
on - say about $25. a week. I do not know how much you may
require but you have an idea whether this method can be made
to pay.
It will be impossible for me to come to Virginia Beach, but
if you are going to Chicago, why not come this way & spend
two or three days with us. I am sure my sister will be glad
to entertain you.
Let me know what you think of the above suggestion.
Sincerely, [
2483]
9/07/34 EC's letter to [
2483]:
Mr. [
2483]
Indianapolis, Ind.
My dear Mr. [
2483]:-
I have yours of the 30th and note what you have to say
regarding your ideas about the work.
We had a meeting on the 2nd of the new Board of Trustees of
the Association, which is at this time presenting the work
that I am doing. There were quite a number of plans
presented at that time, and there will be a meeting very
shortly of those who are trying to take all of those plans
into consideration and to decide on that as will be as near a
concrete, definite way of presenting what we feel we have to
offer, for the last thirty years' work must speak for itself,
but how is the best way to give this out without it becoming
a cult or without being considered so radical that we will
create animosity and hatred - not that we can please
everyone, no, but that we may give to others that which we
have found good in our own experience, and give it to them
in such a way and manner that it will be a plausible,
feasible, workable thing in their experience.
Of course, your idea is very good, and it has been the policy
of the organization to do this some time during each year,
sometimes two or three such trips, but it is necessary to
keep close in touch with the office for the work must be
sufficiently centralized that individuals scattered over the
country, as they are, who are vitally interested and who are
depending so much upon it, may know just how to reach (we may
call it) the source of their information. I think it may be
worked out about the trip to Chicago and, of course, it would
be necessary before we would undertake anything for us to get
together and consider all of the things that have gone on and
the problems that the Association and the work is confronted
with through the various experiences. I am hoping, though,
that I can keep in touch with you and that we may be able to
work out something in a satisfactory way and manner.
Thanking you for your letter, and assuring you that I will
see you if I come west next month, if it is at all possible,
with kindest personal regards, I am
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce [EC:MD]
11/03/38 [
2483]'s letter: "I hope this will find you still
carrying on your fine work. I have been on the road most of
the time organizing 'Junto' Clubs in various cities. Junto
is similar to Rotary but is organized solely to get business
for its members." [He requested a Physical for Miss [
1750].]
"I have been quite well physically but financially I have had
a terrible 'bellyache'...My wife is still in L.A. and I hope
to join her after the first of the year."
11/28/38 Reply to EC's letter trying to put him in touch with
Mr. [341]: "I shall try to get in touch with [
341] and
would also like to see [
257] again."
12/15/38 Letter: "I certainly enjoyed seeing you again and
hearing your story anew. Also I was glad to meet [
341] and
to learn of the progress your work is making."
8/22/39 Mr. [
2483] obtained a second Physical Rdg. for his
wife, Mrs. [
1982].
In 1940 a regular, routine mailing to Mr. [
2483] was returned
marked DECEASED.
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