GC: You will give the relation of this entity and the
universe, and the universal forces; giving the conditions
which are as personalities, latent and exhibited in the
present life; also the former appearances in the earth plane,
giving time, place and the name, and that in each life which
built or retarded the development for the entity; giving the
abilities of the present entity, that to which it may attain,
and how. You will answer the questions, as I ask them:
EC: (In going back over years from the present - " - '35 -
changes - '21 - environs and outlook changed or altered - '19
- '14 - pretty girl - '13 - " etc., on back to birth date.)
Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as or
called [
2800].
In giving the interpretations of the records, these we find
quite varied. The astrological influences and those that
have been developed, even in the present experience, are
quite at variance one to another. Here the characteristics,
as well as the application of the talents of the entity,
would in the most part be in opposition to the so-called
astrological aspects - as to that the entity is inclined to
do.
Yet, it is a fact that a life experience is a manifestation
of divinity. And the mind of an entity is the builder. Then
as the entity sets itself to do or to accomplish that which
is of a creative influence or force, it comes under the
interpretation of the law between karma and grace. No longer
is the entity then under the law of cause and effect, - or
karma, but rather in grace it may go on to the higher calling
as set in Him.
Keep the faith in the Lord, not in things. Some of those
activities in the present may tend to lead the mind astray,
for it to become a disciple of an idea rather than of ideals.
But let thy purpose be in the Lord, and thy ways may be
pleasing to Him.
In giving the interpretation of the records here, - these we
choose with the desire and purpose that this information may
be a helpful experience for the entity; enabling the entity
to better fulfil. Yet those that are indicated as changes
wrought, - much by suffering, much by seeking, - have brought
and do bring about a beautiful purpose. Keep the faith in
same.
As to urges latent and manifested that lead to the
characteristics and abilities of the body, or the
soul-ENTITY, - these we find come naturally in the two phases
of an entity's experience; material manifestations in the
earth and those during the interims of sojourn which we
interpret in the phraseology of the astrological aspects.
But these are only a shadow of the true meaning in same.
For, as the tree falls so does it lie. As ye walk in the
way, so does the effect become in whatever consciousness a
soul enters.
Thus, in giving the interpretations of same to the entity:
One that has a very high mental ability; creative. This we
term as being illustrated by a consciousness of the
soul-entity (not the body) in Mercury. Thus the manner in
which the entity thinks or reasons within itself, - by
comparison. This is a material manifestation of high mental
abilities.
Also in Jupiter We find indicated rather the universal
consciousness. And do not cut this short by
shortsightedness, or the determination to have the own way no
matter what the consequences. This astrologically would be
an interpretation of the entity's experience, because of the
period of birth, but the application - as we have indicated,
through those activities - has been otherwise. Remember,
there is given a way. For the Lord hath not willed that any
soul should perish, but hath prepared a way, a means of
escape. All have fallen short. Thus the necessity of a way
being shown.
Not that the individual entity becomes as a law unto itself,
then, but with what measure ye mete it is measured to thee
again. This is a divine as well as a mental law. It is not
always practised in material application, no - but the law of
the Lord is perfect, it converteth the soul - if the soul
seeks to know His biddings and not thine own.
Having thine own way has oft brought discouragement. Then,
let thy prayer oft be:
HAVE THINE OWN WAY WITH ME, O LORD! AND LET ME REMAIN IN THY
LOVE, IN THY GRACE, IN THY MERCY: KNOWING AND REALIZING THAT
WITH WHAT JUDGEMENT I METE TO OTHERS I AM METING TO MYSELF IN
THEE. FOR THOU HAST GIVEN THAT AS WE DO IT, AS WE TREAT, AS
WE MANIFEST TO ONE OF THESE THY CHILDREN, SO WE DO IT UNTO
THEE OUR GOD.
Keep this ever before thee, in thy writing, in thy ministry,
in thy teachings. Be not too loud nor too long in thy words,
though thou art a good speaker. And to meditate and speak
and reason with others is a forte, is a channel through which
ye may gain the greater consciousness.
For, as ye do good unto others, good and love come to thee of
God - NOT of thyself. Remember that.
As to the experiences in the earth, - while not all may be
given, these are indicated as having the more direct
influence in the present for the entity:
Before this the entity was in the land of the present
nativity, during those early periods of settlings in the
land; when there were those journeyings from the eastern land
- or New York, Pennsylvania - when changes were wrought
following the periods of the Revolution.
The entity with the associates or companions journeyed (or
with its family) towards that known as the "dark and bloody
ground."
In that land, in the name then Martha Ellis, the entity came
to know those activities that brought about much of the
latent and manifested talents and abilities of the entity in
the present; the home building, the love of home. Yet the
ability to keep or to record happenings, to gain
understandings from the unusual, and the interest in those
various phases of experience with the unusual, were a part of
the entity's experience.
The liking for outdoors, for the happenings or activities as
would have to do with every form of activity outside, - as
riding, bathing, golfing, walking - these have been of more
or less interest in the activities of the entity, even
through this experience.
Before that the entity was in the Norse land, when there were
those expansions and activities that brought about great
changes; when there were those periods of the Norseman
overrunning the lowlands.
The entity was among those of the ruling household then, in
the name Emedene Odon. In that experience the entity almost
became a tyrant, in its desire to rule those conditions; just
saving itself by those activities that brought about the
attempt to establish a leader to follow the companion at that
particular period.
In the present we find that determination, that planning to
have the own way, or to have things come about in such a
manner that those purposes which are a part of self may be
the experience of those to whom or for whom such is directed.
These may be well, these may become great stumblingblocks.
Be sure you are right, but judgements are of the Lord. Then
walk in his ways.
Before this the entity was in the Indian land, during those
periods when there were those disturbances which arose
between the French and Indo land, as now known, and the
Egyptian as well as parts of Persia.
The entity there was an active force in establishing those
principles for the moral as well as religious life of the
groups, following that activity of one leader Said.
The name then was Neirmatar. The entity gained, lost, and
gained. In the application for the universal activity of
individuals, the entity gained. In the application for
self-aggrandizement or self-indulgence, the entity lost.
But those abilities of the thinker, of the meditations, and
the abilities to portray the activities of others, and the
motivating forces in the minds as well as in the manners in
which they may portray human emotions, arise from such
experiences.
Study these well, but put the emphasis where the emphasis is
due.
Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land, following
the periods when the Priest had been banished, and when the
changes were being wrought in the lands by the activities
coming about by the unifying of the efforts in various lands.
The entity then was among the emissaries from the Egyptian
land; taught or prepared through the Temple of Sacrifice and
the Temple Beautiful.
Thus the ritual, those things pertaining to beauty, those
things of high emotional nature in the preparation of body or
mind, become a latent part of the entity's abilities.
The entity gained throughout that experience. The name then
was Ith-el-u.
As to the abilities of the entity, then, and that to which it
may attain, and how:
Ye find thyself - as ye analyze thyself - a body, mind, soul;
with a three-dimensional consciousness. Hence ye have a
three-dimensional consciousness as related to the earth and
to thy heaven, or to thy Godhead. Study the relationship of
one to another, for they are one; even as the Father-God is
one, but in manifestation - in power and might - has three
phases of expression; spirit or soul, mind, and body; Father,
Son and Holy Spirit.
Study then to show thyself approved unto thy ideal. And know
what is thy ideal; not merely ideas; and as to Who is the
author of thy ideal. And consider as to whether He may keep
that ye commit unto Him against any experience. Ye have
experienced much of sorrow, much of joy, much of elation,
much of sadness. What produced, and how were these brought
into thy experience? Of thyself, or some other influence?
Or is it one, as the body, mind and soul is?
But have that ideal which is set in Him, who is the way, the
truth and the light. And no man cometh to the Father but by
Him. Know that life or consciousness is eternal. Where will
ye keep thy faith with Him? And what manner of soul body
will ye present to Him?
The field of activity in which thou art engaged is well. Thy
writing and thy meditations are good, if these are kept in
that way of putting the stress where the stress is due,
giving the credit not to self, not to others, not to the
"powers that be" but to Him, who is the Creator, the Maker;
remembering, without Him there was not anything made that was
made. And He gives it to thee. What will ye do with same?
Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman not
ashamed, rightly dividing the words of truth, and keeping
SELF unspotted from the world - of condemnation. For, with
what judgement ye mete it is measured to thee again.
Thou hast started aright. Keep the faith.
Ready for questions.
(Q) Are the thoughts that seem to have come about sketching
and painting real guidance and if so is that for the purpose
of illustrating the books perhaps?
(A) These may be worked into same. They are rather of tests
in the present.
(Q) What is there that I can do and may not be doing to
promote the work that I am engaged in?
(A) Follow those outlines as indicated. Know first thy
ideal, then follow it.
(Q) What have been the associations in the past, and the
karmic ties, with the following: First, [...] (my son)?
(A) In the experience before this a companion; that is, as
one of the same household who journeyed with those activities
to other lands; becoming rather well established in that
land.
(Q) [...] (my father)?
(A) Only in the Egyptian do we find the experience. Hence
there was ever the reverence.
(Q) [...] (my mother)?
(A) We find rather the spiritual acquiescence in activities
than in physical. Hence there were some differences, yet
there was the worshipfulness in the association - after those
changes came in the experience.
(Q) W. Horace [...]?
(A) A companion especially in the Indian land, and as a
companion may do well by such associations in the present;
knowing, though, there are vast differences in thy opinions
in the present.
(Q) Lee Cornell?
(A) We don't find associations in the experiences, though
aware of the activities - especially in the Norse land.
(Q) Natacha Rambova?
(A) Closely associated in many of those experiences in the
Indian, the Persian, the Egyptian and in the Norse land.
These were as teachers one to another, varying in their
aspects in the journeys through those periods of activity.
(Q) [
3704] (my daughter-in-law)?
(A) In the Egyptian experience we find a companionship
especially in the Temple Beautiful. Hence ye are again
associated in such capacities in which there are demands made
one of the other, as to ritual or obligations one to another.
(Q) Is going to Washington the right move now?
(A) Very well.
(Q) Is the thought that has come to me of moving west later
true leading?
(A) It should be, provided there is the adjusting of all the
various ends of thy activities and thy associations.
(Q) Is the thought for marriage to W. Horace [...] God's
Will?
(A) It may be made God's will, as has been indicated. There
is an attraction. There are karmic ties, if it is to be
expressed in such terms. Remember, you have passed almost
from death unto life, in that which has been indicated.
These may be worked in the light of truth. They may become
stumbling forces in the light of self, whether it be of thine
own making or of W. Horace [...]'s.
(Q) Any thoughts about my spiritual state and possible
growth?
(A) There's plenty in those that we have indicated. Analyze
them, thyself and thy purposes. Parallel them to the ideal
that is set before the world, that is the hope of the world,
and see whether ye are climbing or whether ye be trusting or
whether ye be turning aside.
We are through for the present.
Copy to Self
Copy to Ass'n file
BACKGROUND
8/22/42 Questions submitted; see Par. 42-A--54-A.
8/27/42 She secured a Physical Rdg. in A.M.
REPORTS
8/31/42 Letter: "In some cases the language confused me and
in others the thought itself was puzzling. So sometime I'd
like to clarify it so that I could be more intelligent and
make as great use of it as possible. I wouldn't take much of
your time but I was afraid it would be trying to do it by
letter. There aren't many such places but I have the feeling
they are important... Both readings were most interesting
and I hope to profit by them."
3/18/44 Mrs. [
2800] secured a Life Rdg. for daughter-in-law,
Mrs. [
3704].
8/08/46 Mrs. [
2800] wrote that she wished a copy of her Life
Rdg.; she had since married the man she asked about [See
2800-2, Par. 47-A] and gave her new name.
10/04/49 Mrs. [
2800] wrote asking us to change her name back
to the original one on our mailing list.
