1/10/43 Friend Miss [
1703]'s letter:
..., Michigan
Mr. Edgar Cayce
Virginia Beach, Virginia
Dear Mr. Cayce:
Friday evening your letter with slip for the Book was here
when I got in, for my supper, at 9:00 p.m., having been with
Miss [...] to show your telegram to her osteopathic doctor,
known to be "A MAN OF God, if ever there was one," to quote
Miss [...] and a doctor open to study subconscious and
super-conscious states, phenomena, and, so, a doctor she
could feel would not at once repudiate as no good a Reading
such as you reported on Mrs. [
2878] his patient. He did not
know of the Reading, and as I reported, only Miss [...], Mrs.
[
2878] and myself knew of it from this end, except the
telegraph and telephone operators. Miss [...] does not know
if her sister, however, may have told of the Reading being
requested to another friend who is close to her. I thank you
for your personal letter to me. But, as I want to get this
letter off to you, I will not go into details as to a report
on the reaction to your book. You want me to tell how it
looks to me it will impress the public, and the fact that I
rushed it miles across the city so Mrs. [
2878] could read it,
since [...] told me the doctors were baffled as to what was
causing the condition, shows that I thought it convincing
enough for her to read and consider.
As you may have "gotten" in your sleep for the Reading, an
operation was set for yesterday noon; it seems to have been
set in the time between my first night letter to you and the
second, with also a straight telegram, sent the next evening.
When [...] phoned me, late in the evening, 9:30, 1-7-'43 when
I got home from evening school, that you wanted the bed and
room definite, I did all I could to rush that data to you. I
also asked, "Since the operation is already scheduled, to be
performed, do you still want a Reading by Mr. Cayce?" She
said that such was her sister's request.
Before going further, I want to state that I do not know Mrs.
[
2878] very well, but from acquaintance with [her sister], I
believe they are very sincere and devoted to prayer and right
motives, as I trust that I, myself, am. Mrs. [...] and [...]
have delved into astrology and spiritualism for years. Mrs.
[
2878] has a group for such purposes and one, a psychic, has
in years past, said Mrs. [
2878] should not have an operation,
but spiritual healing, which was given. Doctors told her,
however, years ago, she should be operated upon. When the
bloat went down last spring, the psychic took credit for her
having healed her, spiritually. The osteopathic doctor, so
[...] says, could not account for the passing of the water,
as she was not being treated as a patient by anyone then.
This osteopathic doctor, however, when she went under
observation recently, was insistent that she had gone far
enough with trying spiritual healing; while he believes we
are to study and learn, we, as a race, have not yet evolved
enough to function that way enough to trust it completely,
as it seems to have been proven in her case. It seems Mrs.
[
2878] herself, was at least ready to submit to an operation,
as the burden of the bloat was so bad, and Miss [...]
commented, "She is a good sport to have it," when I said
Friday, upon reading your telegram, that it was too bad the
operation was scheduled for the next day, for now, with your
telegram to prevent it, it was getting us all in a jam.
As Miss [...] lives miles from me, we both drove across
the city to the office of this osteopathic doctor; I waited
in the car till cold, about a half hour, then stood in the
lobby. Previous to going to see him, Miss [...] was quite
determined to postpone the operation, as Mrs. [
2878] was not
critically ill. However, she wanted the doctor to see if the
"...telegram made sense and checked with the X-Ray pictures."
MUCH examination has been made recently by the doctors and
surgeon. Miss [...], much as she esteems this osteopathic
doctor for his spiritual qualities and professional ability
and wisdom, was, before going to see me, determined to even
go over his head and postpone the operation, to try your
treatments; for as she said, an operation can always be had.
So, the background was favorable for trying the Reading.
When Miss [...] came out from this doctor's office an hour
later, Friday about 6:00 P.M., she said that doctor had
called the surgeon to again consider the X-ray pictures in
the light of your telegram. The osteopathic doctor seems
not to have ridiculed [...] at all for getting a Reading from
you. I have not had her tell me just how she presented it to
him; however she said he was very willing to check with your
Reading. But, the fact that there was an obstruction or
telescoping of the intestines did NOT check at all with the
X-ray pictures, which were taken when colored food was eaten,
and the food went on through to their satisfaction that there
was nothing wrong in the intestines. There was some other
error in the telegram, but I told Miss [...] that may have
been in transmitting the telegram. The doctor was anxious to
have the typed Reading, and Miss [...] was to take it, if it
arrived, Saturday a.m.
From the doctor's office, I drove us both, so [...] could
talk, to the hospital, quite a distance on. When she told me
that the doctor advised she do not show the telegram to Mrs.
[
2878] I remarked that, instead of keeping any disturbing
news from [
2878] she would know it, if not shown the
telegram, as [...] had telephoned the hospital and told
[
2878] she had "a most extraordinary telegram." I said,
after all it is [
2878]'s body and as she requested the
Reading after reading your book, "There is a River," she
should make the decision. [...] phoned from the hospital
to the doctor and said she felt, upon thinking it over, that
[
2878] better be shown the telegram, and she reported to me
that he agreed so, too.
I waited in the lobby of the hospital a long time and when
[...] came to drive on, she had your book and said, "I am SO
happy, for [
2878] intends to go on with the operation." I
said that as I sat there in the lobby, I thought how often we
wish we could live our lives over, and in this case it would
seem [
2878] could live over this portion, meaning she could
follow the Reading and have the operation later.
[...] left me at the osteopathic doctor's office at 8:10
p.m. Friday, intending to leave the book with him, to read in
if he could and cared to do so, Friday night, to get all he
could about the Readings as given in "There is a River."
I did not hear from Miss [...] or the [
2878] operation
all day Saturday, wondering and wondering if the
air-special-delivery typed copy of the Reading arrived
at [...]'s home before she left Saturday morning for the
hospital, miles away. She was to phone me late in the
evening, but no call came. At 10:30 a.m. Sunday, about an
hour ago, she phoned and talked briefly. She had another
long conference with the osteopathic doctor after I left her
Friday evening. The typed Reading had not come even when
she got home late Saturday morning, and her elderly mother,
who knows nothing about the contents of these mysterious
telegrams being phoned and delivered to the house, as she
trusts [...] quite completely, (and she had told her mother
it was nothing to disturb her or even know about, now...).
Her mother got the air-special from the mail box this
a.m. and saw foot-prints in the snow which fell after dark
Saturday evening; she had not yet opened it when she phoned
me. So, I told [...] if she wanted to give this typed
reading back to me I would come get it and give her
$20.00 for it, as I had lots of remorse, feeling I had not
played quite square with the Association for Research and
Enlightenment in asking for a Reading in that second telegram
and night letter, knowing, as I did, that an operation was
dated, which probably would not be called off in any event,
no matter what the Reading stated, as it was not giving
any chance for the Reading to be tried out if it called
for no operation, offering no chance for "research" or
"enlightenment." I said it so sternly that [...] was
quite disturbed.
Her reply was, "But, it (meaning the Reading and the
operation, contrary to the Reading) is going to do just that!
I would not think of keeping this from the doctors, as they
are very sincere and open minded, and if this man (Mr. Cayce)
is giving out such very wrong readings, as it is proven in
this case of my sister's, it is time some one is checking on
him and his Readings. They are wanting this typed Reading,
even now that the operation is over, to see how much further
wrong the Reading is from their findings in the abdominal
cavity. They do not know your name, [...] and I shall do
all I can to protect you, for you were trying to help us; but
we all prayed for guidance, and now I am taking the Reading,
that it can be read and perhaps it is so we who study the
psychic will trust to God and get guidance from him." (or
words to that effect.) I agreed that it was best, of course,
to get our contact direct from our own Soul, if possible,
rather than through others. On the return to the doctor's
office, [...] had asked me if I thought it possible Mr.
Cayce in his Reading may have "read" an obstruction in the
intestines from the records in the subconscious mind of
[
2878] a condition not now present, but something wrong in
the past that she had now overcome. I replied that so far
as I was informed, that was the one place Mr. Cayce seemed to
be correct, as doctors agreed his reports anatomically were
accurate; they could not accept this treatments.
Well, to continue what [...] just told me over the phone,
the doctors took a lady friend into the operating room, as
a witness of their findings. She is one of that group that
study astrology, spiritualism, etc., so keenly did they want
to play square with the patient, the sister, and the Reading
from Mr. Cayce. The report to me is that the doctors'
estimate as to the probable trouble was right, and not the
Reading: - they removed the womb, which was hardened. A bag
of 2 3/4 gallons of liquid was around one of the ovaries.
the other ovary was all right. The fallopian tube was
stretched till it was like a worn-out rubber band. Nothing
whatever was discovered wrong with the intestines, liver, or
other organs.
So, Mr. Cayce, that is the best that I can report at the
moment. I asked Miss [...] if the doctors had spoken of a
lawsuit, and she said she did not know what they might do,
but they were much concerned with such a telegram that was
NOT as they found the intestines; of course, not knowing
what you may have said in the Reading about ovary, tube,
or uterus, there may not be enough in the typed Reading to
concern them seriously, to bother to have "the law on us."
But [...] did say that the bag and tube were such that they
were about to break and that no doubt would have caused
her sister's death, had she delayed many more days, to say
nothing of having pressures such as osteopathic treatments
such as your telegram directed. The doctors said that no
doubt the water from the cyst drained out through the tube
last spring, but it had become too much deteriorated to
function at all; also the womb too much petrified to act;
or words that meant that to me. I shall probably write to
correct any misstatements in this when it has been read, so
that I shall be correcting all I can the false statements and
impressions expressed in this letter.
I am offering no comments herein, as I want to hold off
judgment till evidence is all in, granted that these doctors
withhold nothing, but lay the cards all on the table, if they
are concerned enough to "call me on the carpet." I never
met any of the doctors. I told [...] on our way from the
hospital back to the doctors' office Friday evening that I
had a nurse-friend living with me once, and I learned it was
creditable to be a clever liar on her part, as part of her
nurse's training.
So, all we can do is leave this case and its aftermath in the
Hands of he Almighty, and trust that the Reading will, after
all is done, if it is done honestly and with good motive,
lead us into a more accurate way of life, physically,
mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.
Very truly yours, [
1703]
1/11/43 Miss [
1703]'s letter:
..., Michigan
Mr. Edgar Cayce
Virginia Beach, Virginia
Dear Mr. Cayce:
Yesterday I mailed you air-special delivery four sheets,
reporting on the outcome of the operation performed upon
Mrs. [
2878] at the Osteopathic Hospital. Only your telegram
had reached here previous to the operation. This telegram
stated to prevent operation with hot wet applications and
osteopathic treatment in a certain place, if I recall it
correctly, and the difficulty was in the jejunum, which was
obstructed or telescoped. Upon operating, the doctors found
no such condition. Your telegram also stated other organs
not operating correctly, but the doctors operating found
them in good condition. It is possible they could not tell,
however, whether these organs were functioning all right.
Since the findings in your Reading and in their operation
vary so decidedly, it seems to me a good thing to check, to
see if the body of Mrs. [
2878] was the one in the bed and
room number "suggested" to you when you Read. Therefore,
I am sending copies of the night messages and the straight
telegram that Miss [...] [[
2878]'s sister] asked me to
compose, and telephone the telegrams to you. Also, if
the location of the Osteopathic Hospital was transmitted
correctly.
Since you wired Miss [...] to verify the exact location of
Mrs. [
2878] as of Friday a.m., January 8, 1943, 10:30 - 11:30
Eastern War Time, it seems advisable before your Reading is
condemned as utterly bad, to check both her location - she
might, at the last (She told me she was more comfortable
sitting, so may have been in a chair and you, therefore, went
to a person IN BED in that same room. Doctors might find
your Reading "fitting" another person's condition.), have
gone to another bed or/and room, in which case you would
have had under observation another person in the bed and
room number indicated in my telegrams.
I sent the straight telegram Thursday evening, after phoning
the night message, as I wanted to be sure the bed and room
number was delivered to you before 10:30 a.m.; also as a
check on the numbers, as the bed and room numbers in both
should be alike; namely, Bed Number two, Room 290. Perhaps
this is stated on your typed reading, so it can be checked.
Perhaps, also, a check can be made on the exact location of
Mrs. [
2878] during this one-hour period Friday a.m.
Cordially yours, [
1703]
1/12/43 EC's letter:
Dear Miss [
1703]
Have yours of the 10th - thank you for same, this I suppose
where it must be set down the information attempted was
wrong, we will try and study same and see if can find the
error of the way, just hope there will be no trouble for
you in your attempt to try and help.
Let me know and - when you have time and feel like it, let me
know what you think of the book, but beleive your answer is
demonstrated better words may do. How ever it seems to have
failed you.
With evry good wish [signed] Edgar Cayce
of course I return that sent me
1/13/43 EC's letter:
Dear Miss [
1703]
Thank you for yours of the 11th - as wrote you yesterday I
had accepted this as one where something had interfered. Of
course there is the possibility, as suggested there was some
other one that was read, but that would not or could not
be verified for a surety. I know that in trying to be as
generous and as helpful as possible did not conform to all
the information has insisted that we do - that may be the
failure - should never take one for a person that is able to
ask for reading themselves unless they themselves ask that
has been told us more than once. But the emergency and all
made me anxious and just wished to help if possible. And
here we are - am sorry but nothing that can do, just hope
Mrs. [
2878] is getting along alright - glad the suggestions
was not thought of and that she is better I do hope.
Thank you again, will check every way can and hope this will
keep me straight that if possible may help some where else.
Thanking you again
Sincerely [signed] Edgar Cayce
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