Edgar Cayce Readings, 2960-1

Time and Place: 10:40 to 11:25 A. M. Eastern War Time. ..., Md.

TEXT

GC: You will give the relations of this entity and the universe, and the universal forces; giving the conditions which are as personalities, latent and exhibited in the present life; also the former appearances in the earth plane; giving time, place and the name, and that in each life which built or retarded the development for the entity; giving the abilities of the present entity, that to which it may attain, and how. You will answer the questions, as I ask them:
EC: (In going back over years from the present - " - '42 - not good, in environments - '40 - expectancies and hopes - '36 - preparations - " etc., on back to birth date.)
Yes, we have the records here of that entity now known as [2960].
In giving the interpretations of the records as we find them, there is much of good, there is much of questioning - as may be indicated in the experiences of the entity through the material planes.
So oft has the entity allowed self-indulgence and self-gratification to become the greater factors in the experience, that there needs be more consideration than usual in the experience of this entity, in that prompting of its feelings and experience with its religious rights [rites?], as the entity walks the closer with the Christian principles.
Then, in choosing the interpretations of the records as we find them here, these we choose with the desire and purpose that this information may prove a helpful experience for the entity.
Let the entity know this:
In analyzing that as may be given, and the choices as may be made by the entity, - take not hold on that which is good and then turn thou back upon thy choice, for the last estate - if thou doest so - will be worse than the first!
That there are confusions in the experience in the present is indicated. While there is the answer to the latent influences, - is this for thy soul development, or for the satisfying, gratifying of the moment? The inner self rebels. WHY do ye allow self to be so led?
In giving the astrological influences, - these, as indicated, are merely urges; and little save that of its better moments has found or does find expression. Yet, if there will be the acceptance of that which is of the spiritual import, this may come more to the front.
We find in Mercury the high mental abilities, the activities in which the entity may find the expressions of self.
In Venus and Mars we find these both working to good and bad, dependent upon what is set as an ideal for the entity - the beauty of self, the beauty in activity and relationships. But these may also be abused, to thine own undoing. For, they may produce - as anger in others, in thy relationships with others - resentments such as to make the entity materially an outcast to self, to others.
If there is the choosing of the spiritual beauty in same, - not the trust in self alone, but in Him, even as He gave, "Neither do I condemn thee, but sin no more," - this may be a lesson in self, if self will but take Him as the one upon Whom the entity will lean. For, there may then be that which is the real purpose of the entity in this experience - the building of a home.
For, this has not always been accomplished in the entity's experience in the earth. Thus, again and again the entity has entered this material plane, knowing, feeling the path it should follow, yet self and self's desire has overcome that as would be accomplished by the entity.
In Jupiter we find the universal consciousness that has at times been so much put into discard, recently.
As to the appearances in the earth, - these have been quite varied, and yet show the correlated relationships to the problems, to the activities of the individual entity in this present experience.
Before this the entity was in the land of the present sojourn, in those activities when there was the building up or the establishing of homes and activities in the city of the present sojourn.
There the entity was among those that were in a position of authority as to relationships, and yet the sanctity of the home was not considered. And this brought an experience of desolation, of loneliness, of self-defacement; and an experience not good in soul development.
Yet the abilities of the entity as the homemaker, as the teacher, as the helper, made for much divided opinions as to the entity's activity through that sojourn.
The name then was Madge Sellers.
In the present, those experiences in which there were those activities have at times brought questionings in self. Thus we find the same relationships bearing upon the present activities of the entity, and the entity is being impelled and confused by that same spirit of destruction, by that same individual in the present. Beware of those associations!
Before that the entity was in the Holy Land, during those periods when the Master walked in the earth.
The entity was then among those coming under the influence of the Master through those teachings especially in Bethsaida. Then the entity was associated with those activities about the disciples and their sojourns in that land, and later became one of the holy women that aided in the establishing of homes for those that were questioned as to their associations with the groups who came as rulers - or as the soldiery in that land.
Thus the entity became one upon whom many relied for counsel.
And in the present there is that feeling of the needs for the security in the teachings of the Truth, as indicated in Him; and yet the other experiences, the listening to the urge of others, bring periods of discontent.
Do not be disillusioned. Know in what ye believe, and have that strength - not in self but in Him - to so live as not to regret anything, to so live as not to have others questioning thy activities, thy associations. For, this will bring the strength in self - if the right stand is taken.
The name then was Leah.
Before that the entity was in the Grecian land, when there was the choosing of the group to be sent to the "city in the hills and the plains."
The entity was among those to be the leaders of same, - being one beautiful in body, in mind, and in purpose questioned - even in self. Yet in coming in contact with the teachings of Uhjltd, and the aids given to the various groups in the "city in the hills and the plains," we find that the entity turned to that activity in what today would be called the hospital, the tending to the ill, the sick, to the varied groups.
Thus the entity grew to be one of power, one of might, through that experience - in the name then Maiiah. The hope for the home is still latent, and may be manifested in the present experience of the entity.
Before that the entity was in the Egyptian land, when there were those activities bringing about the changes in the groupings of individuals through their preparations in the Temple of Sacrifice and the Temple Beautiful.
The entity then was a secretary (as would be termed today), or a keeper of records of those changes wrought in the varied fields of activity through those experiences in which individuals passed in their preparation in those institutions - the Temple of Sacrifice and the Temple Beautiful.
Thus the abilities of the entity as a statistician or datastician are a part of the present experience. But the real forte lies in that latent force which has been so long the desire of the soul entity - a home!
The entity may be a home builder, or a home destroyer. Which do ye choose?
The name then was Anel-Isis-Or.
Then, as to the abilities of the entity in the present, - these lie within self.
Know that indeed thy body is the temple of the living God. Will ye desecrate it, or will ye keep it where ye may meet thy Maker, thy Savior, thy God? For, He hath promised to meet thee, and to hear when ye call.
In the homemaking, especially, the entity may find that outlet for its latent abilities, latent longings.
In teaching and ministering to others may the entity find the greater use of its abilities, of its mind, of its purpose in the earth.
Fail not thy Maker, who gives thee life, light and immortality. Know that only self can separate thee from the love of God. But he that taketh hold and looketh back is worse than the infidel.
Ready for questions.
(Q) Where and how was I associated in past incarnations with [N...]?
(A) He broke thy home in the experience before this. Will ye break his, or thine own, in the present?
(Q) Are his intentions sincere toward me, or am I just another "affair" at the present time?
(A) You are just another "affair." Will ye accept, will ye reject, the truth?
(Q) How should I go about breaking off my relationship with him and reestablish myself so that I would be happy and forget him?
(A) In doing something for someone else! Not in gratifying of self's own desires, nor in answering to the desires of the body. Make those relationships with one with whom ye have ALMOST broken off. THERE ye will find help and strength, IF ye WILL but take hold! Trust in the strength and the might of Him who hath given, "I do not condemn thee, but SIN NO MORE!" His power alone may now take you away from that unholy desire that consumes thee, in thy relationships just now.
(Q) If [E...] came East and I broke up relationship with [N...], could I ever reestablish my former friendship with [E...], and would this be advisable?
(A) As just given, there is hope there. There is none in [N...].
(Q) Should I stay in my present position or make a change to the Office of ... Administration?
(A) Make a change. These will be more in keeping with thy abilities as the statistician or datastician.
(Q) Where and how was I associated in past incarnations with my father, [...] and why is there so much animosity between us?
(A) He was thy husband in the experience before this. And would not there be animosity, with the home broken?
(Q) Where and how was I associated with [808]?
(A) In the experience before this, and in the Egyptian experience. These were helpful forces, in both.
(Q) How can she help me now?
(A) LISTEN to her advice.
We are through for the present.
Copy to Self
Copy to Ass'n file
Copy to Mrs. [808]

BACKGROUND

4/06/43 Miss [2960]'s ltr. to EC:
Mr. Edgar Cayce, Association for Research and Enlightenment, Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Virginia
Dear Mr. Cayce:
I have just received your most welcome letter, and can never possibly tell you how grateful I am that you were able to give me such an early appointment. I realize that since this book has been published you must be overwhelmed with requests for readings. I know that if I hadn't already made an application for a reading, that book would certainly have made me want one.
I have not only read Mr. Sugrue's book intently, but I have actually absorbed it. Every word has meant something for me. For months I have felt that I stood at the crossroads, not knowing which road to take or which way to go. I have almost gone completely insane, because this indecision, this not being sure of which is right and which is wrong is more than the human mind can stand. Finally, Mrs. [808] told me about you and your wonderful works. I realized that if anyone on this earth could help me, you were that person. Mrs. [808] practically combed every bookshop in Washington to get me the book that I might read through it and understand the beautiful philosophy of life it portrayed. As I read through it, all of the unrest and turmoil seemed to leave me. I felt at peace and knew in my heart that this reading would be the answer to my problem. Since then, I have just been living for that reading. My life is just standing still, marking time, as it were, until you can tell me which way to turn. Either way, I realize that my entire life will have to be readjusted, and I am willing to follow whatever you might say is right, in order to restore my former peace of mind. But now, no matter what happens, I can truthfully say that I am no longer afraid. I was afraid, horribly afraid, of what the future might bring. I seemed to have lost the way, lost sight of God and all that He stands for. It seemed as if all of the light and beauty just went out of life, and left me nothing but a maze of questions and doubt. But now all is different. I have faith in God, in you, and in myself. I know that now I will have courage to face the future and whatever it may bring and to struggle to do what is right in the sight of God and of man.
I assure you, that on the morning of April 12th, I shall spend the hour from 10 to 11 in my Church, in prayer and supplication. I know that with your guidance and that which comes from the belief and faith in the Divine Power, I shall find my way out of this situation. Again, let me thank you from the bottom of my heart for giving me so freely of your precious time. May God bless you, and keep you well and strong so that you may continue to help others who might find themselves in the same position that I now find myself. For it is through you, and your divine vision that we can find our way through this life and finally achieve the success and happiness that is meant to be ours.
Thanking you again, I remain,
Respectfully yours, [2960]
Q U E S T I O N S
1. Where and how was I associated in past reincarnations with [...]?
2. Is [...] sincere in his intentions towards me, or am I just another "affair" at the present time?
3. (If answer to previous questions is "yes", ask following question:) Should I continue to see him until such time as conditions would permit us to marry, or shall I wait?
4. (If answer to Question 2 is "no", ask this question:) How should I go about breaking off my relationship with him and reestablish myself so that I would be happy and forget him?
5. Should I stay in my present position or make a change to the Office of ... Administration?
6. If [...] came East and I broke up relationship with [...], could I ever reestablish my former friendship with [...], and would this be advisable?
7. If neither of these men mentioned is my life mate, where and how would I be most likely to meet this person?
8. What is my purpose in this life and how can I best fulfill it?
9. Where and how was I associated in past reincarnations with my father, [...], and why is there so much animosity between us?
10. Where and how was I associated with [808]?
11. How can she help me now?

REPORTS

GD's note: Mrs. [808] said the man [2960] was in love with was 43 yrs. old and she was 20; besides he was married.
4/14/43 EC's ltr. to Miss [2960]:
Dear Miss [2960]:
Hope you find the information attempted for you of interest, and most of all, something as answers to a something within your self; if not, forget it. But if there is anything as tells you the information is right, please for your own sake give the suggestions an honest try, and believe you, like many others, will bless the day you had the reading.
Not that there is any thing in me personally as is even good, but the information as comes through me has so many years proven to be a helpful influence for so many thousand[s], that it must be worthwhile.
Hoping to have been the means of a service in the name of the Christ.
Sincerely [signed] Edgar Cayce
4/17/43 Aunt [808]'s letter:
Now about [2960]'s reading. Thanks so much for sending me the copy. I prayed and prayed in that Church that the information might come through to her in such a way that she couldn't interpret it anyway except the way it was supposed to be, and there is not one thing in there that could be questioned as to what it might mean. It told her in a beautiful way what was what, and after I read it I almost wept. I received it Thursday night with the original and her letter and I didn't have any idea where to get in touch with her. No one had heard from her since that morning I ran into her. I prayed all day yesterday that she would call me or that I would accidentally bump into her, and believe it or not but around 3:00 o'clock yesterday afternoon I suddenly thought how wonderful it would be if she just walked in my office and so help me five minutes later she did. I could hardly believe it when I saw her and thought that I had her on my mind so much I must be seeing a mirage. It was a queer feeling. Anyway, I gave her your letter at first and she opened it, read it and was very pleased with it. She handed it over to me to read. Then she opened her reading - She immediately turned to the questions on the back and said "Oh, my father was my husband in my last life and I broke up our home." She read on and made some other comment, and asked me to come read it with her. I got around to the back of her and she was shaking so with excitement I couldn't have read anything. Someone walked in my office at that time and I asked her to meet me tonight for dinner and we would go over it together. She agreed and said she would call me today and we could arrange to meet. She called a little while ago while I was out, doggone it, and said she would call again. So I think she does want to see me and let me read it. No indeed she won't be mad with you - She knows that every word in that reading is the truth and the way it is told to her is almost like God speaking to her Himself. And, she expected a bad reading because she and [1935] were talking about it one day and she said "no matter how bad her reading was she was going to keep it forever and always be thankful that you gave her your precious time." I only wish she would follow it, but I'm not planning on it too much. I am going to see her as much as she wants me to, and to try to show her how she can obtain happiness even yet if she will do as you say. If I still can't get her to do it - Well, I won't feel that I wasted my time.
I will let you know, however, what her reaction is after I see her. I'm not going to press her with questions, but just let her talk. If she doesn't want to tell me anything, we will just discuss the reading. Before I couldn't tell her she was doing wrong - She didn't believe me. Now she has the facts in front of her and she knows they are true facts. So it's really up to her.
I do want to thank you, however, for giving her that early appointment and for your help. You don't know how much that meant to me. I only hope that it means that much to her. I feel better too than I have felt in weeks now that she has her reading. I feel as though a great load has been taken off my shoulders. So thanks a million times.
Must quit - Hope everything there is well and
Lots of love, [808]
4/19/43 Aunt [808]'s letter:
I could hardly wait to write you this morning and tell you about my visit with [2960] Saturday night. She was at the restaurant when I got there and reading her reading so intently. The first thing she said after greeting me was "I made a copy for you Aunt [808], so left the original home". I asked her how it was, and she said "pretty bad but I love every word of it because I know he was telling me the truth and couldn't have told me any different." During dinner she told me parts of it, practically word for word, and said she wished I had opened it and read it when I received it. I told her I wanted her to have the thrill of opening it herself. She said she had read it over and over again since she received it and couldn't seem to tire of reading it. After dinner we went to the park and went over it word for word. She explained parts of it to me that I didn't understand, and said she was living a parallel to her last life, but there was a lot of hope for her in the reading in spite of what she has done. She said she was going to request a check reading on that period and by the time she got her appointment she would have the money to pay for it. I told her it would be alright as long as she paid before the date her reading was to be given. One thing worried her and that is her birth date was given wrong on the reading. She wondered if that made any difference. I know you must have had her right birthday or you wouldn't have gotten records so perfectly, but I think she would like to have it corrected on her reading. Her birthday, I believe, was right on her application [11/28/22]. It is sometime in November and the reading gave it in February. I told her I would write you about it. I hope I didn't give it wrong on her application. She gave me the information over the telephone and I made out her application and then she signed it and sent it. I hope I had it right.
She hadn't been working and I gathered was pretty much crushed after I met her on the street and she lost her job, but she was to go to work this morning and seemed to be right pleased about it. I didn't ask her where she was living because I think right now if she is left alone, she will work it out for herself. I am going to write her mother today and tell her that I saw her and what the reading said (she has given me permission to send a copy to her mother and my sister) and ask her to leave her alone as I feel it would be better right now. [2960] is scared to death what they might do to her and I think that is the reason she didn't even get in touch with me. She is going to call me though and have dinner with me during the week. Everybody in the family that knows about this thinks I am crazy to hope that she will do what the reading says, but I do feel that she will and I am going to help her do it. I will also feel that she will and I am going to help her do it. I will also see her anytime she wants me to. I might be able to help her work it out and even then if she doesn't follow it, I won't feel that my time was wasted.
[2960] was so proud of the time when she was a holy woman and was associated with the Master. [Handwritten note on side of letter: She also was proud of her association with you in Persia. She said you saved her in that life TOO.] That is why she has been so religious in this life and why she suffers so terribly when she did this other thing. If she was just plain bad, it wouldn't have affected her like it did. And as you said in the reading she would turn to good each time after and then when he came into the picture again she would turn her back on it, to have it worse after that. Oh, you told her beautifully what the set-up is and will be if she doesn't follow the reading. You don't know what a relief it is to me too. Before she knew she was hurting everyone that was dear to her but felt that their love was above everything else and was right - Now she knows how wrong and awful it is for her, and if she still does it, I feel that she is destroying herself knowingly, and I don't think she will do that.
4/23/43 Aunt [808]'s letter:
I have a million things to tell you and don't know where to begin. First of all I saw [2960] last night and she very willingly told me everything. She said after she was fired and felt that she had nothing further to live for, she thought of committing suicide, but the reading prevented her from doing that. She wanted to see if it gave her any hope. So she waited until the day that she thought I would have it and then came in to get it. She said she hasn't seen this man since the day that I ran into them. She went to the Station and since that time he knows not where she is.
She said when she got the reading, she knew then that she must keep herself "among the missing" as far as he was concerned. She didn't want to be put in the position of being under his influence again and take the chance of weakening. So she didn't tell anyone where she was living. The day that she got the reading from me she went to see about a job and got the job. She likes it ever so much and from what I understand has spent practically all her spare time in Church. She was telling me of the different churches she has been to and the different preachers she has heard. She saw "King of Kings" Sunday might at the Presbyterian Church. You recall that is the story of Jesus Christ. She said she had never been so moved in her life as she was when he said "Neither do I condemn thee, but go and sin no more". That had been quoted twice in her reading, and she said she felt as though Christ was saying that to her Himself. Edgar, I do wish you would read her reading sometime. Honestly, that girl is like a different person. Somehow within me I know she is telling me the truth. I haven't asked her any questions and she need only to tell me the things that she wanted to, so I am sure would have not said anything at all rather than lie to me about it. I know she is sincere and is trying with all her heart to do as the reading tells her to. She told me too that she didn't trust herself so thus the reason she didn't want this [...] to know where she was. And you know her reading is so perfectly frank about her that no one reading it would have any doubts about what she was doing, but she is so proud of it and practically knows it by heart. There isn't one part in it that I read what she can't tell me without looking word for word what it says. She says she never gets tired of reading it. She told me that as soon as she got her feet financially she was going to make an appointment for a check reading on the last life which she is living parallel to. She said she would much rather have a check on the time when she was with the Master, but she felt that she needed this other first so she could be guided accordingly - then, when that has been worked out, she wants to have the one on when she was a holy woman. She said the first one would be more depressing because of what she did, and the second one very uplifting, but she wanted to have the one that would help her most at this time. She couldn't talk like she does if she wasn't sincere about it. Even if she ever does weaken again and fall back to such degradation, and may the Lord help her so she doesn't do that, I know that she is sincere right now in what she is trying to do.
4/23/43 Aunt [808]'s letter:
As to her birth date - I'm afraid that was entirely my fault. She gave it to me over the telephone and to save time I typed it for her. I don't know where I got the February 25 date as I know her birthday is in November. However, in my rush I apparently typed the wrong date. It apparently didn't make any difference in her case, as her reading couldn't have been more fitting under any circumstances and she knows it. It is definitely her and no one else!!!! I can vouch for that. But, she did want to get the records corrected, and I suggested that she change the date on her reading accordingly. Should I write a note to Gladys and have it corrected in the records? I feel terrible in having made such a mistake, but I am so glad it didn't make any difference in the information that came through. Perhaps it didn't make any difference because it was so unintentional. I will find out the correct date and send it to Gladys if you think it a good idea.
[Handwritten note:] I just talked to [2960] over the telephone & the date of her birth is November 28, 1922.
There are so many things about [2960]'s reading that were so extremely interesting. The one reincarnation that she is so terribly proud of is the time when she was in the Holy Land with the Master. She was in close association with Him and later became one of the Holy Woman [Women?]. That probably is the reason for her religiousness in this life. Up until she met this man she was so faithful to her religion and it meant everything to her. And her reading indicated that would be the thing that would save her now.
Another thing she was so proud of - She told me before she had the reading that after reading your book and seeing your picture she felt sure she had been closely associated with you sometime and that you had saved her before. Sure enough in the Hills and the Plains (or whatever it is called) her life was questioned by others as well as herself, but then she came in contact with Ujtht [Uhjltd] (that is spelled wrong I know) and in her work in the hospital and doing for others she became quite powerful and apparently gained quite a bit. She just loved both of those reincarnations. However her last life was just the same as this. She was married to [...] who is her father in this life (who has always questioned her and never trusted her even when she was small and thus her reason for asking the question about him). She broke up their home when she met this [...] and ran away with him. She finally committed suicide, which, if it hadn't been for this reading she probably would have done in this life.
Isn't it funny how it all weaves together? I think her reading is one of the most interesting I have ever read, and it certainly doesn't leave anything in your mind to question. I read it over and over - If she will only follow it, I think she will do a lot of good and help a lot of other people. She wants to do it too - She wants to feel that she can help someone. It indicated that she and I were closely associated in the last life (we haven't decided how because she was in the place of her present sojourn which would be Washington, D.C.). However, when she ran away with this [...] she might have gone to the Mohawk Valley and I might have tried to help her then. She is going to ask that in her check.
5/11/43 Aunt [808]'s letter:
Received your letter last night and it sure was perfectly timed as I was feeling pretty much in the dumps. I had found out something yesterday that was pretty hard to take, and I really don't know what to do now. [2960] is living with this [...] and that is the reason she wouldn't tell me where or give me the telephone number. She had been lying to me everytime she had seen me and I believed every word that she told me, not for one minute thinking she would do a thing like that. It is funny how each time she lies to me, the truth is practically dumped in my lap without me even moving a finger. Billie, my sister, and I are the only ones that know about it - We aren't going to tell anyone. Of course, you don't matter. Helen doesn't know either that we know about it. Billie said she felt right along that that was what she was doing but didn't want to say anything to me because I was so sure that she was doing the right thing, and she also hoped that she might be wrong. Of course, I'm still not going to do anything to hurt her and will meet her anytime or see her, but don't know what to do. Should I let her know that I know - I couldn't meet her and pretend and listen to her lies to me. I just couldn't do it! Then too I don't want her to be adding to her karma by lying to me - I would rather not see her at all. I don't think she wanted to lie to me because she has avoided me only except on occasions when she had to see me - the first time the reading, and the next times she needed money as it will be a month before she will be paid, and of course she probably felt she had to tell me something, as I was so hopeful that everything would be alright after she had the reading. That really hurts, but I know only too well that I'm not nearly as hurt as she will be. [Handwritten note: That's what bothers me so terrible. If she doesn't wake up soon, something awful is going to happen to her. I just know it. Well, I can only hope and pray that it will still have some effect on her.]
6/15/43 See 808-19, Par. 43-A advising to hold the bond of sympathy with her.
6/26/43 Aunt [808]'s letter: "I called [2690]'s office and found she is no longer with them. She left with her 'husband', I was told. He is a major in the Engineer Corps and had been sent to La. So she gave up her job and went with him! No address, so I can't get in touch with her. I'm hoping she will contact me but under the circumstances I rather doubt this. My heart goes out to her, and wish I could do something to help her in the wretched mess she is making of her life. But she has to learn the hard way like so many."
10/44 Routine mailing was returned marked "MOVED".
3/24/50 In answer to inquiry, Mrs. [808] reported that Miss [2960] did not listen to her or the reading but went away with the married man to California.