This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce, at the Phillips Hotel, Dayton, Ohio, this 9th day of October, 1923, in accordance with request made by [5717], [294], and others.

Present: Edgar Cayce; Linden Shroyer, Conductor; Mamie Rosenberg, Steno.

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11. (Q) From what source does this body EC derive its information? [See same question ans'd also in 294-1 (year 1910?).]
    (A) The information as given or obtained from this body is gathered from the sources from which the suggestion may derive its information.
    In this state the conscious mind becomes subjugated to the subconscious, superconscious or soul mind; and may and does communicate with like minds, and the subconscious or soul force becomes universal. From any subconscious mind information may be obtained, either from this plane or from the impressions as left by the individuals that have gone on before, as we see a mirror reflecting direct that which is before it. It is not the object itself, but that reflected, as in this: The suggestion that reaches through to the subconscious or soul, in this state, gathers information from that as reflected from what has been or is called real or material, whether of the material body or of the physical forces, and just as the mirror may be waved or bended to reflect in an obtuse manner, so that suggestion to the soul forces may bend the reflection of that given; yet within, the image itself is what is reflected and not that of some other.
    Through the forces of the soul, through the mind of others as presented, or that have gone on before; through the subjugation of the physical forces in this manner, the body obtains the information.
12. (Q) In obtaining this information by suggestion, does this body gain this information from the director or from the body directed to?
    (A) From the subconscious forces, which become universal by the natural laws governing RELATIVITY OF ALL FORCE: whether spirit, soul or physical, and the information is obtained through that connection between subconscious soul or spirit forces as directed, and directed to. Suggestion being that manner in which the direction is given. Hence, how the reflections, either direct or wavered, are obtained, just as the subconscious force of the director is held in that direction the information is obtained and in the manner that it, the director's subconscious wavers, the reflections becomes in the same manner wavered.
13. (Q) In giving diagnosis of the physical body, how are internal conditions reflected?
    (A) By relativity of force.
14. (Q) What is the state of the physical forces of this body while giving this work?
    (A) They, the physical, are under subjugation of the subconscious or soul forces. As we see in the body we have the trinity for an entity. We have as this: the physical forces and mental mind; we have the spirit or soul force with the superconscious or soul mind; then we have the spirit that is the mind of the soul force, just as the soul occupies the body in its same form and manner. Just as the body of an individual that has passed beyond may be seen by others in the physical plane only when their physical or mental, material or mental are subjugated like this body here we are speaking of, Edgar Cayce, the physical is subjugated or laid aside, we find the soul forces give the information, and the body is under the subjugation of the soul and spirit forces.
15. (Q) What is the soul of a body?
    (A) That which the Maker gave to every entity or individual in the beginning, and which is seeking the home or place of the Maker.
16. (Q) Does the soul ever die?
    (A) May be banished from the Maker, not death.
17. (Q) What is the subconscious mind of the body?
    (A) An attribute of the soul or mind of the soul.
18. (Q) What is the difference in suggestion to the subconscious mind and the conscious mind?
    (A) Suggestion to the conscious mind only brings to the mental plane those forces that are of the same character and the conscious is the suggestion in action. In that of suggestion to the subconscious mind, it gives its reflection or reaction from the universal forces or mind or superconscious forces. By the suggestion just as given may be wavered by the forces that are brought to bear on the subconscious to reach the conscious mind, just as we have in a purely mechanical form. [See 900-59, Par. 3-A on 4/13/25.] Any object, or wood especially, projected into water, appears bent; just so with the reflection from suggestions to the subconscious to reach the conscious or mental forces appear bent in their action, or in the manifestation of their action, to the physical or conscious forces of individuals.
19. (Q) Just what is meant by force and forces?
    (A) Depending upon the conditions under which incentive or that which is being acted upon and that which is acting.
    As we have in the body of a living physical being, we have a body made up of many atoms, and their relations to each other depends upon the force as is given in each part to work upon, or in or through the system.
    In the nerve system we find that of the force of physical matter or subconscious or soul matter, or superconscious or spirit matter, all receiving a force, as illustrated, we would have it here; when any object or injury comes to a portion of the body, then the nerves transmit that to the physical or conscious brain to be removed; the forces of all of the elements or, that is, of the parts of the body are brought into play. That which carries, that which replenishes, that which comes, such force or forces, as may be. Or as we would have in the one word to express all force; that which is the spirit of any object, [See 900-59, Par. 4-A on 4/13/25.] whether animate or inanimate, physical or material, that of the Divine which carries all force. We only have to take into consideration the relativity of the condition, position, time and place as to which or what element of force is implied in giving the elements of force from the subconscious force to the conscious force. In this also we may see how the correct reflections may appear bent.
20. (Q) Is it possible for this body, Edgar Cayce, in this state, to communicate with anyone who has passed into the spirit world?
    (A) The spirit of all that have passed from the physical plane remain about the plane until their development carry them onward or are returned for their development here, when they are in the plane of communication or remain within this sphere, any may be communicated with. There are thousands about us here at present.
21. (Q) If the subconscious is giving this information when in this state, how are we to know on the physical plane from whence and from which condition it gives this information?
    (A) Just as we know as to the force implied from whatever element the force is given, we must know from that force the information is obtained, deflected only by the expression of the individual who obtains the information. By the results obtained in the end. Just as we have in the diagnosis is for the betterment or advancement of the individual, just as the subconscious that communicates to the physical, for with the physical submerged, a universal condition. It may be obtained from all or in part, just as needs for the individual. None is gained from one individual, but as there are good personages, there are good individuals, not necessarily within the same manifested body - just so in spirit force there are good and there are bad personages still reflected. As those give rise to the expression and all give expression of experience of themselves of the entity through which the information is obtained gives that deflection as we may find with the surroundings of those not good, we will find the results in the same. Results in diagnosis give of the forces, whether the spirit forces are good or material forces are good. Then judge. Judge as the seed of truth is ever the same, and its production are ever by the same, though some may fall in fallow land or some may fall in stony land.
22. (Q) What is meant by banishment of a soul from its Maker?
    (A) Of the will as given in the beginning to choose for self as in the earthly plane, all insufficient matter is cast unto Saturn. To work out his own salvation as would be termed in the word, the entity or individual banishes itself, or its soul, which is its entity.
23. (Q) What is meant by the re-entering of the personality as in the beginning?
    (A) The personality is that as known on the physical plane in the subconscious or when the subconscious controls, the personality is removed from the individual, and only that other forces in the trinity occupying the body and using only its elements to communicate as in this body here, we have spoken of. With the submerging of the conscious to the subconscious, the personality of the body or earthly portions are removed and lie above the other body. They may be seen here. Hence the disturbing of those conditions bring distress to the other portions of the entity or individual. With the return then we find the personality leaves those impressions with those portions of the body, as we have given for the arm force here, you see.
24. (Q) To what place or state does the subconscious pass to receive this information it gives?
    (A) Just here in the same sphere as when the spirit or soul or spirit and soul are driven or removed from the body or persons.
25. (Q) What is meant by ailment of the soul, mental and spiritual forces on which this work may border?
    (A) Mental is of the physical which with its relative forces connecting the soul force and unbalancing of the truth may perform on the soul forces that which brings abnormal results to physical and soul matter. [See 900-59, Par. 6-A on 4/13/25.] The correction of these only means that it, the work, assists the individual or the entity to find itself and to follow in that way that would lead that individual to its own better self.
    Each individual must lead his own life, whether in this sphere or in the other planes. The environment makes or performs the variations in whatever it may enter, else we would have no redemption in the blood.
26. (Q) Does the environment have any bearing on the results obtained when the body is in this state?
    (A) Environment bends the weakest and the strongest. Not in the same means, but we have given the environment carried on to the re-entering of the entity.
27. (Q) Is memory thought, or thought memory?
    (A) With the evolving of the individual, the thought becomes a part of the memory as evolved through the developing of the entity. In memory, we may have either plane, in physical or mental speaking - they are separate. In that of spirit and soul forces, thought and memory depending then upon the plane from which the question is approached. Physically, memory and thought are not synonymous, neither are they of the same beginning in physical forces. In that of the soul and spirit force, they become one and the same in evolution. [See 900-233, Par. 8-A on 5/07/26.]
28. (Q) In the physical plane, do the thoughts of another person affect a person either mentally or physically?
    (A) Depending upon the development of the individual to whom the thought may be directed. The possibilities of the developing of thought transference is first being shown, evolution, you see. The individuals of this plane will and are developing this as the senses were and are developed.

BACKGROUND

1. Subject of 3744-3 - "Psychic Phenomena through the Subliminal."
2. See 3744-2 answering questions Par. 1-A through 10-A.
3. See 3744-1 and 3744-2 Background for information re [3744] series.

REPORTS

1. See 3744-4 continuing the [3744] series with Par. 29-A through 38-A.

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