8/30/24 EC's ltr. to Mr. Wyrick:
P.O. Box 463,
Dayton, Ohio
My dear Mr. Wyrick:-
Have yours of the 25th, and as always was very glad to hear
from you. I suppose that perhaps you may be on your way back
to Texas, as possibly you want to be there when they start in
on this new well, or is it that you want to be there when
they end it? I'm in hopes we'll all be there then. I'm
certainly glad to know that you have everything in shape and
drilling will start now right away. Should you be able to
complete this by the fifteenth or twentieth, I would
certainly understand why these dates have been given to
several that are associated with you in greater or lesser way
in these operations.
I've already written Mother Moore in San Saba and told her
that if she would just have a little patience that I am sure
that we would be able to get a well there for her, or at
least started on it, before the year was up. I'll write to
her again real soon and see how that she is feeling. [See
[
5628] series.]
As regards our Jew friends, I cannot quite understand their
attitude. In fact, I have a letter from them written the
same day as yours was, in which they tell me they have called
your office at least three times every day for the last three
or four days, and were very anxious to get in touch with you,
but I presume they're like all the rest of them, picture
wonderful things until they get what they want, and when they
do that it is the end. I'm sure that is something of the way
that you felt when they kept you waiting so long there that
day anyway. As you say, their proposition, even was it
successful, would never mean the same thing to the Institute
as it would if it was carried out on the other lines. What
did you think of the reading that was gotten regarding the
work, the suggestions as made regards a manager and the like?
[See 254-11.]
As to the meeting that was spoken of by the lady from
Norfolk, I've had no further word from her. Consequently, I
suppose same will be delayed for some time yet. I sure do
wish that I could get something set along that line that
would be satisfactory, for I have been waiting over since I
cam back from Chicago, expecting to hear something definite
from some source or another, until what little that I had
gotten to-gether on that trip has been used up and more, for
I haven't been extra busy, though we have had some very
interesting readings in the last few weeks.
As to the reading referred to by Mr. [
4151], I think we were
under the impression that this was for his sister [
4998]. I
wish that I could get each one that asks for the reading to
realize that these points, as given in this letter, of which
I am enclosing you a copy, are absolutely correct, for we
have never had, in all of our experience, a deviation from
this when these conditions existed. It is true there have
been a few instances, where friends and not relatives have
asked for readings, that they have gotten results, but the
actual condition per se existed, but I will certainly be glad
if you will take this matter up with him and let me know the
facts regarding same. If it's possible to get them
straightened out I'd like very much to do so.
I do not remember whether you met Cannon while I was in
Chicago or not. I think I mentioned to you anyway something
about it. He is a man that is associated with the Yogi
Publishing Company, and was talking to me something about
printing the book. He did not see a copy of same, and was to
have seen me again before I left Chicago, but I didn't have
that opportunity. I've had a letter from him since, and he
apparently is very much interested in this phase of the
phenomena and in publishing this book. So, if you have the
opportunity, I wish you'd all him up, or have Mr. Labryn or
Mr. Crews see him. He is at the Yogi Publication Society,
800 N. Clark Street, Telephone Superior 3662, and see what he
has to say about same. In talking to him, he seemed to feel
like that under the circumstances and conditions that his
company might be able to take the book and publish same, do
all of the advertising, for the sale of same, and at the same
time give perhaps twice as much commission on the book as was
ordinarily given. So, I think this would be worth looking
into. [[
3744] series: Psychic Phen. Thru the Subliminal.]
Hoping that you will let me hear from you every opportunity,
and with kindest personal regards from all of us, I am
Yours sincerely, Edgar Cayce
EC:GD
9/02/24 Mr. Wyrick's letter: "A message from Martin Sunday
morning stated that the well would be spudded in yesterday
and drilling will continue and uninterrupted I hope, from
that date."
9/03/24 Mr. Gumbinsky's ltr. to EC:
GUMBINSKY BROS. CO.
WHOLESALE WASTE MATERIALS
UNION & LUMBER STREETS
CHICAGO
Mr. Edgar Cayce,
P.O. Box 463
Dayton, Ohio
Dear Mr. Cayce:-
I have your kind favor, and would have answered sooner, but
it has slipped my mind from day to day. I am enclosing
herewith, check for $100.00 which I hope will reach you in
ample season and tide you over for the time being.
Mr. Isaacs is at the Daniel Boon Woolen Mills, Inc., right
along, and he said he has called Mr. Wyrick several times,
but has never been able to get him on the wire. He said he
would try again this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
My intentions with regard to the Texas [[
5628] series]
proposition are bonafide, but I don't want to trade with Mr.
Wyrick or anybody else, on any Horse Jockey basis. I don't
like it, and it is contrary to my method of dealing. The
more I have thought over Mr. Isaacs idea that you and Mr.
Wyrick should get an eighth interest, which is practically
the same as the people themselves who own the land, the more
I realize that Mr. Isaac's was quite fair. If the
proposition pans out all right an eighth interest would be
more than anybody could spend, and if it is not any good, it
would not make the slightest difference, whether it was one
eighth or seven eighths.
I have not had a change yet to see Dr. Frisch, but I will see
him at the earliest possible moment, and let you know what he
says.
9/05/24 EC's ltr. to Mr. Gumbinsky:
New Southern Hotel
Columbus, Ohio
Mr. Oscar Gumbinsky,
2261 S. Union Avenue,
% Gumbinsky Brothers,
Chicago, Ill.
My dear Mr. Gunbinsky:-
Yours of the 3rd was received here this morning. We came
here the first of the week to finish up some work that was
left when I came on to Chicago. Expect to be in Dayton and
through Saturday and all the rest of the week. I certainly
thank you for your kindness and consideration at this time,
and its appreciated more than I know how to tell you. I'm
very much in hopes that some day I'll be better able to
express to you my appreciation than I can right now.
We had a little time this morning, so I felt that we should
get this reading [Personal reading with answers to questions
re. his business affairs.] for you at once, and I'm in hopes
that it will prove satisfactory. Notice there are several
things that are not answered, but I'm sure it just needs
better connection with same to get a direct reply.
I do not know just why Mr. Isaacs had not been able to get in
touch with Mr. Wyrick. Letter from Mr. Wyrick this morning.
I will see him sometime this next week, as he is coming to
Dayton. If you all have not gotten in touch with him before
that time, I'll try and find just what is the status of the
situation and will write you fully about same. I understand
that he has gotten his own operations started and they
expect to have a well within the next sixty days.
I'm in hopes that you'll have the opportunity to talk with
Dr. Frisch sometime in the very near future, and that we can
come to some definite conclusions regarding the outcome of
the proposition.
Will say this, that one of the persons referred to in New
York I have had some correspondence with the Junior member of
this firm, though do not know them personally. Whether this
had anything to do with this notation given, I do not know.
I have no idea of anything their abilities, or just what
their business is. I believe it will be worth while though
for you to investigate.
I am to have two or three business conferences next week and
I'm in hopes that I can get some conditions regulated and
some of the prospects definitely outlined to work out.
Certainly hope that these things work out nicely for you and
that you will let me hear from you every opportunity.
Again thanking you, with kindest personal regards from Miss
Davis and myself, I am
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce
EC:GD
9/05/24 EC's ltr. to Mr. Wyrick:
P.O. Box 463,
Dayton, Ohio
My dear Mr. Wyrick:-
I have yours of the 2nd, which was forwarded me to Columbus,
where I have been this week trying to scare up some business,
but I haven't been able to do very much. Certainly do thank
you for your letter, and for the enclosure, which under the
circumstances certainly comes in wonderfully handy. In fact
I don't know how I would have made it without this help just
now.
Certainly am glad to know that things have started with the
well in Kopperl [See 5628-1.] and I hope they'll have no
trouble now until this is completed. I still hear from
Gumbinsky once in a while. He says Isaacs wants to get in
touch with you, but I think it's just as well to forget about
this and we'll go on and work it out as you have suggested.
I certainly do hope that you can arrange to come down to
Dayton this next week. I had a long letter from Dr. Saxmann
a few days ago, and I wrote him rather fully and told him I
was in hopes that you would take with him and see if you all
thought it was the right thing to do if you couldn't arrange
for me to get up to Chicago and start the work there. I'd
like also to talk with you regarding the reading which I sent
you a copy of [
254-11] and there probably will be a couple of
other men to see me sometime next week. If I can hear from
them in time I will wire you, for I'd like for you to be here
when they are, but don't wait on them if you can come. You
come whenever it suits you.
Regarding the book and Mr. Cannon, as soon as I return to
Dayton, I'll send you a copy of the data [[3744 series] so
that you can have it to take the matter up with him. He
talked very enthusiastically the day that I saw him, and
wrote me quite a nice letter since then. I'm in hopes that
you have been able to get in touch with him.
I'm right smartly on the anxious seat about getting things
set as was outlined in the reading, but I hardly know which
way to turn unless I can get some expression from some of my
friends that were mentioned in the reading, for I'm such an
awfully bad shape financially I wouldn't know how to go out
and make any offer to anyone to act in that capacity unless I
could get a line on them some way. But, let me hear from you
right away, and I certainly hope that it will be so that you
can come to Dayton in the very near future. My phone number
is Main 1472-J 322 Grafton Avenue residence.
Again thanking you for your kindness, and with kindest
personal regards and best wishes, I am
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce
EC:GD
9/06/24 Mr. Wryick's letter: "Message from the well
yesterday, they were setting a 15" casing at 175 ft."
9/11/24 EC's ltr. to Mr. Wyrick:
P.O. Box 436
Dayton, Ohio
My dear Mr. Wyrick:-
I am sending you under separate cover [[
3744] series] the
manuscript of the book. We had to make another copy of same
before we could send it out, as I had sent the copy that I
left with you before to Mrs. Bethea [Mrs. Miriam W. Bethea of
Birmingham, Ala.]. I do not know whether you have had an
opportunity to talk the matter over with Mr. Cannon as yet or
now. He seemed so very much interested when I was there, and
wrote such an enthusiastic letter since, that I have been in
hopes that when you do have the opportunity to go over the
matter with him that it will really mean something.
No special news. Everything very quiet with us. In fact I
haven't been feeling very good myself for the last day or
two.
Certainly be very glad to hear from you every opportunity you
have.
With kindest personal regards, I am
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce
EC:GD
9/16/24 Mr. Wyrick's ltr. to EC:
I have not commented on the reading [
254-11] you sent out
sometime ago regarding the Management of the institute
affairs for the reason that I am anxiously working out the
oil proposition in Texas, hoping for quick returns which, if
the developments are had as expected, will be the means of
relieving you situation more substantially than any other way
I know of and again too, I do not feel like undertaking
anything else that will require financial management until
this oil matter develops.
Mr. LaBryn called on Mr. Cannon of the Yogi Publishing
Company and I am enclosing his comments on the interview, but
it would seem that the investment necessary to put the book
[[
3744] series] on the market in small quantities would be
more than you could justify at this time. I think that in
order to be successful with the Books you must expect to
carry on a Campaign of about three years duration.
I will be glad to hear from you again and you may write me in
strictest confidence on any subject that you may wish me to
consider with you and I will arrange to see you just as soon
as I can leave for a day or two.
Best wishes.
Sincerely, [signed] M B Wyrick
MBW-A
P.S. Report from Koppearl 13 [See
5628-1] open today
finished setting 12 1/2" casing at 595 feet now ready to go -
this shuts out the second water will probably have to set 10"
900 or 1000 feet. Martin says they make 10 feet per hour
when drilling. MBW
9/20/24 EC's ltr. to Mr. Wyrick:
Am glad to say that I am feeling almost myself again. I was
pretty well knocked out for about ten days and the better
part of the time had a reoccurance of my old trouble, unable
to talk, so I'm going to have to try to make up now for lost
time. Finally got it back when I was able to put myself in
the condition and tell them what to do.
It seems there is a great deal of difference in the way that
Mr. Cannon talked to Mr. LaBryn [See Mr. LaBryn's Report,
Par. R30, below.] that the impression he left with me when I
was talking to him in person. However, I guess, when the
proper time and conditions are right that we'll get this
attended to in the right sort of way. I hope so at least.
I had been rather anxious to hear your opinion regarding the
reading of which I sent you a copy sometime ago, but you have
been so exceedingly kind and generous all along that I felt
loathe to say anything until you felt like bringing up the
matter yourself. I would have certainly liked to have talked
the matter over with you and see what you felt was the best
thing for me to do under the circumstances. Seemingly, just
at this time, there is quite a bit of interest with several
parties concerning the exploration of the work. Perhaps none
of them just in the way that I most desire, for I realize
that those who have sufficient capital as yet are not
interested sufficiently to give me the start necessary. In
fact this is condition as the present time:
I have an offer from a Mr. Iams in Columbus, Ohio, who
proposes to take the management but wants to act as the
dictator as for what, and when, the readings shall be taken,
not to exceed more than fifteen a week. His idea is to go
from one place to another, interest groups of people, and to
make such charges as we're able to get for same, pay the
expense then split the proceeds fifty-fifty. He to furnish
the necessary give to six hundred dollars to start such work.
That makes it necessary that I break up home and have a
traveling experience for awhile.
The next is a young man, the son of the lady whose letter is
in the little booklet, Jack Stone, Montgomery, Alabama. He
is desirous of taking up the proposition in the same way and
manner. However, there has not been any definite terms or
things of that kind gone into. I'm expecting him here to
morrow or next day to see me, when we will go into the matter
rather more fully. I do not whether he has any capital at
all or not. I suppose he has. However, in many ways, I know
he is very well fitted for getting in touch with the proper
groups to make a success of the work. Perhaps better than
Mr. Iams would be but I'm sure hasn't the financial backing
that Iam's is able to put out.
Then the two people in New York, Mr. Shank and Mr.
Blumenthal. I have had several letters from Mr. Blumenthal,
and he has called me on the phone two or three times.
I've never met him personally, so cannot say what kind of a
man that he is. He insists that I come there to spend a few
days with him and talk over the proposition fully. Mr. Shank
I know very well. He is a man that was in the Consulate
service for twenty-five or thirty years. He's a nephew of
Mayor Shank of Indianapolis. In the real estate business at
present at Brooklyn, man of considerable ability, very wide
experience and has been a student of such phases of religious
phenomena as border much on this work. A man who invested a
couple of thousand dollars in the oil company that I've tried
to put over. Mr. Blumenthal is a member of a Wm. E. Lauer &
Company, who are members of the Stock Exchange. I understand
a man of considerable means and affluence. Just what their
proposition would be I do not know. Mr. Blumenthal proposes
to pay all my expenses if I will come up and talk to him. I
am sure that either or both of these would want someone else
to handle the work, unless they insisted on my locating in
New York, in which case I am sure Mr. Shank would want to do
that.
Now, any or all of these, I feel sure desire to tie me up
more or less to work with them and under their supervision,
and I did not want to do that until I knew just what the
possibilities were of working with the people in Chicago, for
somehow I feel like that the Doctors Saxmann are the logical
people to work the thing out. I've written Dr. Saxmann just
my position and condition. As yet I havn't heard anything
from him.
Now I wanted you fatherly advise regarding all of these
propositions, and I just didn't know what to say or do other
than ask you to come and talk 'em over with me, for I know
that I must do something and that right away. Can't afford
to sit still, let all of these pass, and which one to accept
I don't know. So you let me know what you think about all of
this.
I'm certainly glad to know they are getting along alright at
the well, and I'm in hopes they are able to keep up the good
work and can complete this on time with the success that I
think we are all justifiable in believing we will have.
9/16/24 Memo for Mr. Wyrick:
MEMORANDUM FOR MR. M. B. WYRICK:
I called upon Mr. Cannon of the Yogi Publishing Company in
response to Mr. Cayce's request regarding the publication of
his book. [[
3744] series.]
Mr. Cannon stated that they were tied up with a number of
other contracts and could not take upon themselves to finance
the printing and binding of the book. However, he stated
that they would be willing to pay for the advertising of
same.
It would cost in the neighberhood of $400.00 to print and
bind about 1000 books. This amount will have to be raised by
Mr. Cayce in order to put the book on the market.
He was very much interested in Mr. Cayce and his work and
would be glad to help him out all that he possibly could to
further the work of Mr. Cayce, believing he is honest in his
effort to help out humanity. He further stated that the sale
of books at this time is very limited and that it would take
a couple of years to advertise same before any great demand
would be made for same. There are some of his jobbers that
receive from 45 to 55 off of list price on books purchased
from the Yogi Publishing Company so that there would be but a
small margin of profit in the books when sold thru them.
However, he has a mailing list of about 8000 people to whom
he mails advertising matter who would make up some of the
profit lost thru the sale of same to jobbers.
I do not believe that Mr. Cayce would be wise to spend $400.
to publish this book at this time for the reason that in
order to make up the money spent, it would take the sale of
1600 books to return to him the original investment, and this
is figured on a profit of about 25 cent on each book.
[signed] Geo LaBryn
Chicago, Sept. 16, 1924
GLaB-A
9/22/24 Mr. Wyrick's letter to EC:
Chicago, Illinois
Mr. Edgar Cayce,
Box 463
Dayton, Ohio
Friend Cayce:
Your letter of the 20th.
You again ask my opinion regarding the different propositions
that you have for promoting the work. I am going to say to
you frankly that I think you made a mistake in leaving
Chicago and that if you can return and get established on
the same footing, or nearly so, as you were going, it will be
best for you financially and will be in accord with the
instructions you have had from the sub-conscious for you will
be able to present the work to the people individually, in
classes and in mass in one locality and save the expense of
travel, in dividing your earnings with some one else and at
the same time retaining your independence so far as
contracting yourself to the dictation of others is concerned.
There is a great field here for the work and more people than
you will be able to reach for a long time and you will have
the good influence of people like Sachsman [Saxmann],
Gobinsky [Gumbinsky] and others for whom you have rendered
valuable service.
Regarding your personal affairs. It does not seem that it
will be necessary to take your children out of school and
move your family immediately. You could come and get the
work going and bring them on later. Now this is my candid
opinion and I don't feel that you can better yourself by
going to New York or traveling over the country.
Dr. Sachsman is planning a loop office and tells me he
expects to have room for you.
Our well was at a depth of 840 feet Saturday Afternoon when
Martin wired me that it was practically a young river flowing
from it. They expected to pass this water strata Sunday and
set the 10" casing today. After that they should make good
progress as we do not anticipate any more water.
I will keep you advised regarding the well and should it
prove a success, you need not worry about your financial
condition.
9/29/24 EC's ltr. to Mr. Wyrick:
P.O. Box 463
Dayton, Ohio
Mr. M. B. Wyrick,
Room 308, 427 S. LaSalle St.,
Chicago, Ill.
My dear Mr. Wyrick:-
I have yours of the 22nd, for which I thank you very much.
I do not think that you are far wrong on your surmise as to
how, and in what manner, that the work should be carried on,
and I believe that Chicago is one of the places, or THE
place, as indicated that the work should start. However, as
I said to you once before, I did not want to push myself on
the mercies and good graces of anyone unless they were
perfectly willing to help me do what I was trying to. The
plan as you suggest, as to my coming there and starting much
on the order as we were a couple of months ago, might be the
very thing. However, just at present, I am not in the
position to do that. I'm in hopes, however, that as soon as
conditions are a little bit improved, and Dr. Harriet is
entirely well, so that Dr. Robert will have more opportunity
to study the things over, that we might be able to make some
arrangements for the young lady when I came up, why I hope we
can do this. I am very much of the opinion, if I'm going to
do it, I'll have to do it this next month. Otherwise, I'm
afraid the Sun, Moon and Stars will be in the wrong place.
Could I but get all of these that are interested in the work
to-gether, with one definite idea and purpose, why I believe
it would be the thing to do. I realize many people, many
minds, and especially so on such a proposition as this. I'm
in hopes, however, that you do not lose patience with me, for
the truth is I have just been, and am, under such a continual
STRAIN all of the time that I sometimes I almost feel like
giving up everything in despair.
I'm sorry that I haven't been able to get any more
information regarding the conditions there, but I will as
soon as I possibly can, IF I can get it [See
953-10 given on
9/10/24.]. I have been quite busy for the last week. Of
course that's an accumulation of the ten days I was unable to
work. I perhaps may have the opportunity to get something
this week.
I am very much in hopes that they are coming along nicely
with the operations on the well. I trust they had no
difficulty in shoving off the water with the ten inch casing.
Trusting you will let me hear from you whenever possible,
with kindest personal regards, I am
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce
EC:GD
9/30/24 Mr. Wyrick's ltr. to EC:
Chicago, Illinois
Mr. Edgar Cayce,
Box 463,
Dayton, O.
My dear Cayce:
I have your letter of the 29th. Very glad to hear from you.
Glad to know that you are having plenty of work. Hope that
it may keep up and I assure you that I and all of your
friends will be glad to see you come to Chicago. We will do
the best we can to get you going.
I have not had an opportunity to go to Texas yet. They have
had considerable trouble with the water in casing it off, but
understand that they have about accomplished a dry hole by
setting 10" casing.
For some reason I am getting a little concerned about the
ultimate outcome of the well. I suppose because it has not
progressed as fast as the contractors expected it would and I
would like you to give me another reading to find out for me
the true conditions under which we are drilling; as to
formation and management; if it is being handled as it should
be; the depth at present; kind of formation they are drilling
in and what may be expected in formation and production in
the next 2500 feet and about how long it will take us to
drill into production. Also if there is any changes in the
management, location, equipment or anything else that should
be made to insure success.
I saw Dr. Sachman last evening. He was very much pleased
with the letter received from you; also advised Mrs. Sachman
is improving.
With kindest personal regards, I am,
Sincerely, [signed] M B Wyrick
MBW-A
10/04/24 See
4905-3.
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