1/02/25 EC's letter:
P.O. Box 463
Dayton, Ohio
Mr. [
4906]
... Ave.,
..., Okla.
My dear Mr. [
4906]:-
I was indeed glad to have your letter of the 28th, and to
hear from you again. We had been talking about you for
several days just preceding this, and we had determined to
write you a letter, see if we could hear from you, and to
find out how things were going with you.
I'm certainly sorry to know of the bad luck that you had
with the two wells that you were drilling in accordance with
information which I had given. I have no way to explain the
outcome of these. I can only accept it as being one of the
failures in work of this kind, and try to study conditions
surrounding same and see if I can determine any cause, or
whether there WAS a cause or not. As yet, I have reached
no definite decision. It perhaps may be as you suggest, not
intended that such information should be used in such work,
for I DO know that there have been hundreds and hundreds of
people that have been helped in PHYSICAL readings that have
been given since that time. This may be another one of the
conditions in which I should not delve at all. I'm sure this
has been very disappointing to you, from the impression that
you had gained from conversation with myself, and from the
letters that I had shown you, and perhaps from some word
that Dave Kahn also told you. I DO know that such things
HAVE succeeded. Why, when all was intended with such good
intent and purpose, that those should fail, I do not
understand, and as yet I am not sufficiently able, in a
financial way, to delve into the matter to determine as to
whether we could find the cause or not. However, there is at
the present time another well [See [
4905] series] being
drilled according to information furnished through such
readings. This, as yet, has not been completed. Should be
perhaps in the next two or three weeks. I shall be glad at
that time, if you so desire, to furnish you with all of the
information connected with this well, and the outcome of
same, whether it be good or bad. Then, should you consider
that you would like to have, irrespective of whether you
followed it directly or indirectly, readings on the wells you
are about to drill, I shall be glad to undertake them for you
and let you use them as you see fit, and should they be worth
anything to you, determine in your own mind as to how much.
As for the San Saba proposition [See [
3777] and [
5628]
series], it is still held in about the same condition as it
was a year ago. I would not desire anyone, under the
circumstance, to undertake the proposition there, until we
see the outcome of this present well being drilled.
As for myself, and what I have been doing, as you may well
surmise, the gentleman whom I came here with, and with whom
I was associated when you were here, has long since faded out
of the picture, and I have of necessity had to go on my own
hook, which, under the existing circumstances, has not been
an easy job, for it has been even worse then from elbow to
mouth. During the year, I have made two or three trips.
These have been more or less successful, and at the present
time I have a group of men interested in establishing the
Institute much along the lines as I tried to outline to you
when I was talking to you here, and I expect to go to see
these people about the 11th or 12th. Perhaps will spend a
week or ten days with them. What is to be the outcome, I do
not know. We still have a great many requests for physical
readings, and all of these come from friends of people who
have been assisted. I'm sorry to say, we have had very few
from Oklahoma, following the readings that we gave there. Of
course, I know there's some reason for it. Just what, I can
only reason it with three things I have at least learned in
the last twelve months. Namely: For anyone to receive any
good from the readings, physically of course I'm speaking of,
first they must desire in their own soul assistance. Second,
they must believe in what is given, at least sufficiently to
carry out to the letter the suggestions made. Third, they
must believe that God is able, through their physical bodies,
to give them that which they desire. Without these three, I
don't believe anyone will get any good. That's my experience
in the last twelve months.
Now, I'm sorry, Mr. [
4906], this proposition has been an
expensive one to you. I'm sure you have thought of it in
many different ways, especially when you found that the
operations, under your own geologist, or suggestions from
self, proved no different from those on which I tried to
give information. It perhaps has made you feel like that
everything was guess work. However, I am in hopes that it
will not interfere with our friendship, and I'm in hopes that
yet I may be able to help in some manner or way, in which it
will give you something definite, something tangible, for you
to base your opinion of the work on.
I trust, then, that I may hear from you from time to time.
I'm glad to say that our family has been fairly well
throughout the year. I've had one or two right bad spells
myself, but I'm feeling very good at present - physically.
Am glad to know that you and yours have kept well, and that
you had a very pleasant Christmas, for the little folks at
least.
Trusting that 1925 will prove a very successful year, in all
of your operations, and with best wishes from all,
Sincerely, EC
8/02/25 [
4906]'s letter:
WINDSOR HOTEL
Garden City, Kansas
Mr. Edgar Cayce.
Dayton, Ohio
My Dear Cayce: No doubt you will be surprised to hear from
me, especially from out in this country. I am out here
now finishing up, that is plugging a dry hole that we
have finished 31 miles North East of Garden City Kansas.
Cayce I will be done here in about 10 days and I am planning
on going to Texas to look around, to the town of ABILENE and
MORAN in Shackelford Co. I understand there is a shallow
pool there and they are getting nice wells, and I notice from
the map that our old town of San Saba is not far from there,
and if you have no objections I will go over and look the
Rocky Pasture over.
You know I have drilled continually since I met you in
Oklahoma, excepting this well, and have had no luck so I
believe I will change states maybe that will help.
Do not think that I am going to Texas to interfere or
infringe on your San Saba leases, for I am not, but if you
have not made a deal with some one else and still think
I am a square shooter, you may write me immediately the
descriptions of the Rocky Pasture and where its location was
to be, and I will not mention you at all while there, and
then I'll come to Dayton to see you if the land & the looks
of the county suits me.
I am wondering just how you are getting along with your
Institute, and I hope that you are succeeding beyond your
own expectations. I myself have been very unfortunate in the
Oil Business. Maybe it not my time yet, at any rate I would
enjoy a nice long letter, letting me know, what you think
of me inspecting the San Saba Deal [See [
3777] and [
5628]
series]. With kindest regards to you & family -
Yours truly - [
4906]
8/05/25 EC's letter:
Mr. [
4906],
..., Kansas
My dear Mr. [
4906]:
Certainly was very much pleased to have yours of the 2nd.
Sorry to know though that you have been having such hard luck
and getting dusters all the way around, but I certainly would
be very glad if you'd go down in Texas, for you to go over
and look over the Rocky Pasture, and I'd be very glad for
you to tell the owner (I wouldn't care for it to be general
knowledge), Mrs. Julia Moore, that I had asked you to come
look it over and make her a proposition. I think it would
really be worth something to you for her to know that I had
suggested the proposition to you. However, you may feel your
way out in that respect, if you had rather, and use your
own judgement regarding same. I shall be very glad to give
you any information that is possible concerning any of the
territory around there. I can furnish you a log of the
well that was drilled in Rocky, the one adjoining there, and
the one about three miles below. My idea of the location,
though, as I said, I'd be very glad to give you the very
definite spot when you go to make it, the location that Udden
Bosai and the one I gave, without knowing anything of the
country or these peoples' report, are practically the same,
and is about thirty yards nearly North of the junction of
Little Rock and Rocky. These are branches in Rocky Pasture.
I assure you I shall be glad to cooperate with you in any way
that it is possible, irrespective of whether that you were
giving me an interest or not.
Hoping to hear that you are in that country in the near
future, I am, with kindest personal regards from all of us,
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD
9/27/25 (Sunday morning) Mr. [
4906]'s letter:
Mr. Edgar Cayce
Dayton, Ohio
Dear Cayce I was very glad to get your letter and since that
time I have made a trip to Lexington Ky after my family who
were spending the Summer with my father, and on our return
we came to Texas that is the shallow fields around Albany,
Sedwick, and Moran, Putman, Cisco, Crossplains, Cross-cut,
and Burkett pools, and I was very much impressed with that
country.
I noticed that San Saba is only about 125 miles south of the
area that I visited and if I had not been hurried for time,
I would have gone to San Saba - but as I have made all
arrangements to move to Texas I will get over there as
soon as I can after getting moved. I believe that the
opportunities are much better there, than in Oklahoma as
this here is so nearly drilled up.
Cayce where does Mrs. Julia Moore live? in San Saba or out
on the ranch, and would you send me the records of the wells
that have been drilled near there and also the report of Mr.
Udden Bosai as I want to check all the information against
the report of my geologist Mr. John Herald of Tulsa, and I
expect to drill this well if I can get a good report signed
by Herald. Cayce also send me your idea of what depth I will
have to go, and how much pipe I will have to use, and what
sizes and how much of each size, and whether I will have
to underream any or not, as I have a very large 30 Special
Star Machine, and have an Extra arrangement on it that I can
handle as much pipe as a standard rig, and if I do not have
to underream I could use this machine if it not over 2750 ft
very nicely and could do the work much cheaper.
Cayce ole man, I am sure want to make this deal, and I want
to say right here, no matter how the deal is made, you will
have all the interest you desire, of course I can not tell
you definitely until I have worked that country and see if I
want the lease and also see if I can get it from Mrs. Julia
Moore. Something tell[s] me continually that I am making the
right move in going to Texas - I hope so. Now Cayce please
send me all this data as soon as you can, as I want to make
arrangements with Mr. Herald to work this lease (?) and make
a geological report on it.
Thanking you for this information in advance and trusting
that you and your Family are all well
I remain Yours truly - [
4906]
P.S. I will be here until the 10 of October.
10/03/25 EC's letter:
35th Street,
Virginia Beach, Va.
Mr. [
4906]
... Ave.,
..., Okla.
My dear Mr. [
4906]:-
Yours of the 27th was forwarded me here. As you will see
from this, we have moved the base of our operations from
Dayton, Ohio to Virginia Beach, Virginia. While we have
gotten away this far from all the workings in Texas and that
part of the world, we are in hopes and believe we have made
the right move for our Research Work. We have hardly gotten
straightened out as yet. I'm sorry I can't send you those
reports and papers in this mail, but I will get these up just
as soon as possible, so you will please let me know by return
mail where to mail these. I am writing at once, so that I
won't miss you at Okmulgee.
I am enclosing you clipping from some Texas paper, Lometa
I think it is, that may be interesting to you. This man,
Bridges, has perhaps done more extensive work in San Saba and
surrounding country than any one geologist that has been in
there, and there are some blocks of acreage just South of
where I want to drill that he has been holding for quite a
number of years. Udden and Bosai both made reports on the
territory and I'm pretty sure I have Bosai's report on Rocky.
That I will send you as soon as I can get to these papers,
with the information about the two wells as were drilled. I
am of the opinion that you would get production at very close
to 2600 feet. There would be about seven or eight hundred
feet of ten inch casing, about 1400 feet of eight inch
casing. Then I'm sure you would not have more than one
other, IF THAT, strata of water. It might be possible that
you would get a small well in the lower bend, which would be
at something like eleven fifty to thirteen hundred feet, but
I am of the opinion that you would get the large production
in the hickory sand, which is reached by passing through (in
this district) what is known there as Ellenberger by Udden.
In fact, anything in that district, whether you rake it up
off the top of the ground, or where you get it, Udden calls
it Ellenberger - but you pass through the Ellenberger around
sixteen and thirteen hundred feet, in Rocky. Now this is for
your own personal information. The reports as were given on
our well, I think, show that we quit drilling in Ellenberger,
or had reached granite at about eighteen hundred feet, but I
could eat all the granite that was in it, except that which
was put in by some fellows that jipped the well - but I'll
send you these reports and then you can see for yourself.
Mrs. Moore does not live in San Saba nor on the ranch, but
about two miles and a half, or three miles, out South of San
Saba. Of course, anyone there can tell you just where she
lives, and it may be possible that she has moved since I was
there.
Be sure and let me have your address by return mail, that
I may send all of these papers to you. I certainly am in
hopes that you're making the right move and I can't help but
believe that if you drill that hole in Rocky that you'll get
one of the biggest, if not THE biggest well that has ever
been brought in, in Texas. I certainly thank you for your
interest and for your big faith towards myself. I assure you
I only want to do the right and proper thing at any and all
times - but surely appreciate any favor that you may show me.
With kindest personal regards from all to you and yours,
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD
10/31/25 Mr. [
4906]'s letter:
Daniels Hotel
European - Fireproof
Mrs. Grant Mason, Prop.
Cisco, Texas
Mr. Edgar Cayce,
Virginia Beach Va.
My Dear Cayce,
I know you are wondering what has happened to me but on
receiving your letter I was packing and storing my furniture
and loading a car of tools which I shipped to Putnam Texas,
and was expecting to get away from Okmulgee in the next two
or three days after your letter came. So I did not send you
my address for I did not know where it would be. I unloaded
my tools at Putnam Texas 16 miles west of this town of Cisco.
I am told it is less than 100 miles to San Saba. I will wait
to go there until I hear from you. So as I will have all the
dope when I go.
Cayce, I am associated with one of Oklahoma's biggest men,
and have the finances all arranged for to drill 10 were on
different tracts of land here in Texas, and I am satisfied I
can get this well drilled without any trouble.
I'm writing this hurriedly and a man is waiting for me to go
to Moran with him to look at a lease that he has. This pen
is a fright so excuse the looks of this letter.
My partner & his geologist will be here this coming week and
I want to take the geologist over Rock Pasture so you rush me
the dope and please describe the location in your letter so
as I can find the exact spot. I want to see how close our
geologist comes to making the same location.
Rush this "Old Man" for I may be the Boy, that is intended to
put you on your feet.
Just as soon as I check up on this lease, then I'll make you
a proposition, and I am sure you will be more than satisfied
with it.
Trusting that I will get an answer from you by next Wednesday
for my men will be here and I must not miss having them go
over it. I am keeping quiet about the information that you
gave me, and my men must work with only the knowledge of
geology as they would do elsewhere. If I drill this well no
man connected with the work will ever know any thing about
what your prediction on it has been, for my policy would be
to let no one know, then nothing will happen to the hole.
Cayce "Old Man" we will make it yet.
With kindest regards to you and family,
Your true friend, [
4906]
P.S. Write me Gen. Del., Putnam Texas.
11/03/25 EC's letter:
115 West 35th Street,
Virginia Beach, Va.
Mr. [
4906],
General Delivery,
Putnam, Texas
Dear Mr. [
4906]:-
Was certainly very glad to have yours of the 31st. Was
sorry indeed that I didn't have these papers so I could send
them to you in the first letter, for I realize these cannot
possibly reach you TOMORROW, as they will only leave here on
that day - but I just received yours this afternoon. I've
had these on my desk for some little time. I believe they
cover practically all the information that I could give
you, except that which [will be?] of a verbal nature. I'm
[certainly?] glad to know that you have gotten connected up
right. I believe you're going in some wonderful territory,
as I think more of it than any I know. Now there is a great
deal of Texas, from Archer County to the Rio Grande River,
that I believe I have some first hand information about,
so wherever you do decide to operate in Texas, whether
its anywhere within two hundred miles of anything I have
anything to do with or not, I shall be glad to give you
the information that I may have regarding same, and PLEASE
UNDERSTAND I don't expect pay for same, for I want to see you
make a success! I think you deserve it - you're the right
sort of a man to have it, and I'll be more than glad to give
it to you - so wherever you do decide, should I have anything
on it, it will certainly be yours for the asking.
Now the papers that I am sending you [[
3777] series], as
you will see, many of them are the original copies. They're
the last ones that I have in my possession. I haven't made
copies of these and I would like to ask that you preserve
these and when you are through with them, whether you
use them or not, I'd be glad if you'd return them to me.
However, they're yours to use as you see fit, for I believe
in you, and here's hoping you are on the right track! As
for the location in Rocky, it is about a hundred yards form
the junction of Little Rocky and Big Rocky. That's two big
gullies that run through Rocky Pasture. That is, a hundred
yards from this junction toward the Goldthweight and San Saba
Road, which, if I remember directions correctly, is a little
bit East of North from this junction. I think I told you
about how to get in touch with Mrs. Moore. She lives South
from San Saba on a little farm about two miles and a half.
I certainly will be glad to know what your geologist has to
report.
I'm in hopes that these reach you in good time and you know
I hope that you'll drill this well. Be sure and let me hear
from you every opportunity you have.
Glad to say we're all very well, and with kindest personal
regards,
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD
11/03/25 LIST OF PAPERS SENT [by EC] TO Mr. [
4906]:
Udden report on Cayce Well #1 - 1640 feet, Dec. 8, 1921.
Log of Cayce Well #1.
Log of Leverette Well #1.
Log of Munsell Well #1.
Geological Report by Dr. Emil Boese on Rocky Pasture.
University of Texas Bulletin of the Marathon Fold.
Letter from Carter Chambers, Coleman, Texas.
Map Crockett County, Texas.
[See [
3777] series.]
2/02/26 Mr. [
4906]'s letter:
Cisco Texas
Mr. Edgar Cayce
Virginia Beach Virginia
My Dear Cayce. I'll bet you are wondering this moment, what
has become of me, and whether I am ever going to write you
or not. Well "old man" I have been stepping on "through
the Rye" here in Callahan County. I have added TWO more dry
holes to my long list and am starting another one this week.
It seems that dry holes have a kind of nourishment in them,
or at least I seem to thrive on them.
Cayce I returned from San Saba last night, it being my second
trip to see Mrs. Moore, and I am glad to say that I have in
my pocket this moment a new five year commercial lease on
the Rocky Pasture and also Mr. Leverett's lease of 1000 acres
adjoining Mrs. Moore's property, and about 4000 more acres
that Mr. Boller the lawyer is getting signed up for me as I
could not remain long enough to secure them myself.
I am very much impressed with Mrs. Julia Moore. She sure
is an excellent Christian character, and a most lovable old
lady. I took my wife and kids down with me and they enjoyed
every moment of this stay.
Cayce I have made up my mind that I am going to drill that
well, something tells me that its my way to success, that is,
it means help for the poor and needy, for that's what my part
will go for. All I want out of it is to pay this debt of
$150,000 that hangs on my head, and here is what I want to do
for you, if your prediction is true, as I believe it is. I
am willing to drill that well on this basis, I to own all the
leases I will finance the well, and will take out the exact
amount of my indebtedness and interest, and then you to have
1/2 of all that I have, the well and all the acreage that
remains. I want to drill this well without selling an
interest or selling any of the acreage, and I feel that I
will be able to do that, for I am praying for the well I am
starting in Callahan County to come in good enough, that it
will bring me enough to drill the Rocky Pasture.
Something tell me I'll get this hole down Cayce and that you
will yet realize all you ever expected out of it, for your
work or institution.
Cayce, I am unable to interest my Oklahoma partner in the
deal at all so am going to fight it out by myself, and I want
you to do this for me I suppose you can. You take a reading
and get a geological report in detail on that block of
acreage telling the thing in full as Dr. Emil Boese does in
his, and sign it Dr. Edgar Cayce - wouldn't it be fine to
have a report written by you before the well was started
when the well come in. It would prove to all the world
your power.
Say write Mrs. Moore a letter. She would like to hear from
you.
I am keeping Boese report and the record but am returning the
rest of the papers.
My agreement on the Rocky Pasture is to be actually drilling
on or before Aug 1, 1926 with all the tools rig and material
on the ground. Let me know Cayce if you are satisfied with
my proposition on drilling the well and if you are not we
will try to change it to your liking, it is only as it seems
to me to be the fair way.
Let me hear from you, write to Mrs. Moore and don't forget
the report.
With kindest regards to you and your family,
Yours truly [
4906]
2/11/26 EC's letter to [
4906]:
My dear Mr. [
4906]
I was somewhat surprised, but certainly very glad, to have
yours of the 2nd. I felt that you had been very busy, and
I know when a man has that kind of business to attend to,
he hasn't much time for letter writing. I certainly am glad
to know though that you are going to drill a well in Rocky
Pasture. I am sure that you found Mother Moore one of the
loveliest souls that you nearly ever met. She's one of the
old, old timers.
I'm sorry to know that you have had to add two more holes
(dry) to your list, but I'm feeling mighty confident of
the results in San Saba, provided you shut your eyes and go
straight on down to twenty-six hundred feet. As you can very
well see from the log, there are many geologists, especially
Dr. Udden, that will tell you that you will strike
Ellenberger around twelve to thirteen hundred feet, but I
know, by experience, you will go through this in less than
three hundred feet. I know it's there, because I've SEEN
it. I know the oil is there, because I've seen that. It
certainly was funny though - about two days before I received
your letter, I DREAMED I was in Rocky Pasture and saw a well
come in.
Yes, I'll be very glad to write to Mrs. Moore, and will do so
in this mail.
As far as your offer and suggestion as to what you will do in
regards to your work there, I think that is fine, and I don't
know how anyone could ask anymore of a fellow. I shall be
very glad to make a reading on the territory and send it to
you. I could NOT sign it as doctor or geologist. I think,
however, there are a great many things that I can be of help
to you in, regarding Rocky Pasture especially. I'm sure you
note that it has already been surveyed, blocked off, and has
been made a matter of record. It will be very easy then to
determine whatever block you may decide to place the well on,
and will not be hard nor expensive to get the lay of same.
Bross is still, I believe, the County Engineer. You will
find him a peculiar man, but certainly one whose acquaintance
you would desire to cultivate after you know him, and he was
very close to Dr. Boese when he made his study of that whole
territory, spent several weeks with him, right out on the
ground, ALL THE TIME.
Now, you know I kind of feel like that I'm starting in the
fight again, to know you're down there on the job, and I'll
want to be of every possible help in the world to you, and
don't hesitate to call on me at any time, and anything I can
possibly do, I will do! I'll get you that report just the
first chance possible. It might be a week or ten days before
I have an opportunity, as we're keeping pretty busy, but I'll
get it.
Let me hear from you whenever you find the time. I believe
you're going to be one of the richest men there ever was
in the oil business now. I know you're going to open the
biggest field that's ever been opened in Texas.
With kindest personal regards,
Sincerely, Edgar Cayce EC:GD
3/31/26 [
4906]'s letter:
Cisco Texas -
Mr. Edgar Cayce
Virginia Beach Va.
Dear Cayce. Well I am in Cisco today and have a little time,
so will write you a letter. It has been very cold here.
Snowing and freezing up the cars, so we shut down the well
and came in home until the weather get warmer.
Cayce what is the matter? that I have not heard from you.
Your last letter stated that you would get me the report on
my San Saba acreage, in the near future. I would like to
have it very much. I am planning to go to San Saba about
April 10th to get the other leases signed up that makes my
block complete.
I am seven hundred now on the well that I shut down, with no
show, my contract is to go 800 ft and we are to drill five
wells on this lease. Our lease contains 1085 acres on
Section 3 + 4 on the Synder Ranch North East of the town of
Baird Texas about 8 miles in Callihan County Texas. I do
hope this is good for I have been thinking of late that it
would be so much better if no one would be interested in that
(San Saba) lease but you and myself. I can get partners in
the deal, but so often they turn out crooked, and botch up
the deal so that why I want to make enough money on some deal
so as I can go it lone handed at San Saba, then I know I'll
get what I am drilling for. Will you see if this acreage
is any good north of Baird or not. If it isn't I'll drop it
and get another shallow deal where I can sell it for a few
thousand, then I can drill the San Saba well alone. Let me
hear from you at once please.
With kindest regards to you and your family
Your true friend [
4906]
P.S. Cayce I am enclosing a structural map of my lease on
Snyder ranch - the locations are marked 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
This will help you find it.
Write me a long letter - I want your exact location for our
well at San Saba -
4/16/26 See
5628-2, EC's reading for Mr. [
4906] re Rocky
Pasture in San Saba County, Texas. Subsequent correspondence
of Mr. [
4906] may be found typed into the [
5628] series
Reports, etc.
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