Extract from lecture given by Dr. Harvey L. Rose, M.D. during
the 1972 Medical Symposium in Phoenix, Arizona:
Rather than go into any extensive clinical data (it'll be
extensive enough as I go through it), I want to summarize
several areas in which the Cayce materia medica has come to
my aid. The largest series I have going involves the use of
Atomidine and Glyco-Thymoline in the treatment of canker
sores or aphthoustomatitis and the herpes fever blisters.
The recalcitrance of these lesions is well known, and I
recall in medical school being told that no matter how they
are or are not treated, it takes several weeks for resolution
to occur.
In February of 1971 this past year somehow by accident or by
design when Kenalog in Orabase was not relieving canker sores
(an epidemic of canker sores in my family) I somehow stumbled
on the use of Atomidine and Glyco-Thymoline applied in that
order directly to the canker sores. The Atomidine was first
applied so that there was contact with the sore for at least
30 seconds and then followed by Glycothymoline. I'm sure I
don't have to explain Atomidine and Glyco-Thymoline to
anybody in this audience.
In the readings, Atomidine has a cleansing effect on the
glands and Glyco-Thymoline restores an alkaline balance to
the body systemically as well as locally. Of course, iodine
is basically an antiseptic in any form. The readings state
that an acid condition may preclude [prelude?] to canker
sores. In reading
369-8:
Q. What causes sores in the mouth and on the tongue from
time to time?
A. This is as the indication from the irritation in the
duodenum and the stomach itself, see? This from acid in
the system.
The patient was advised to use milk of magnesia or milk of
bismuth and to avoid acid producing diets.
In reading
648-1, Ipsab as a wash and massage was advised for
sores in the mouth.
703-1 reads as follows:
Superacidity in this system from regurgitation of gastric
juices and gases (This must be from the burps) made for
sores or cold sores in lips or mouth.
Reading
246-1:
Q. What produces the canker sores in the mouth? What will
prevent them?
A. These are from the acidity in the system. Thus necessity
of eliminating the poisons by the colonics, the general
hydro-therapy treatments. If these will be used, a
good alkaline antiseptic for gums such as Lavoris or
Glyco-Thymoline, we find this will aid in keeping the
mouth fresh and clear.
Much to our pleasant surprise - I'll just call them A & G now
so I won't use up too much of my 40 minutes - these worked so
that one could resume normal eating habits immediately, and
the sores disappeared in a few days. Since the first case
(which was my wife Alice - it's always safest to try these
Cayce things in your home first before you start using them
in the general community and also on your office personnel
- they're very good subjects) there have been 30 or more
patients I've had with canker sores, five with fever
blisters, and few had the misfortune to have both at the same
time. All but two of the canker sores responded
dramatically. One of them was an ex-nurse in our office, and
those in the profession are the hardest patients to treat.
I was going to tell how theirs did not respond, but I'm
not going to use up my time on that. Suffice to say that
they were helped temporarily and then the effect seemed to
wane and then by continuing the A & G plus using standard
treatment like Kenalog in Orabase and the tetracycline
antibiotic, they did finally get better.
But in the majority of the patients who did get better, the
pattern is almost predictable. The burning caused by the
Atomidine (you'll have to warn the patient that there's a
slight stinging and burning sensation caused by Atomidine -
and this is almost immediately relieved by the application
of the Glyco-Thymoline), then the person's able to eat,
drink, and hopefully be merry after the application of the
medication. However, the pain may recur in a few hours and
is relieved by another application. The traditional q.i.d.
is advised, but it is found that unless it hurts, the q.i.d's
are not followed, and it turns out to be p.r.n. But that's
what you're going for anyhow is relief. So if it's not
hurting and they aren't putting it on as often, well, so
much the better.
In one to three days, the pain does not recur, and two to
five days after the start of therapy, the ulcers are gone.
One patient was improving, but after the second day,
she spilled the Atomidine and continued only with the
Glyco-Thymoline with no further improvement. Upon resuming
the combination therapy, all ulcers were gone in three days.
Since that early case, I've been reluctant to change my
course of therapy. I suppose in the interest of science,
regular iodine and baking soda applications could
be attempted, but it's so difficult to change your
therapy when you have a winner.
As a part of the experimental model, I have been keeping
lemon/lime juice in the office. An 18-month-old infant was
brought in because he wouldn't eat or drink anything for
about 36 hours, and even that day he refused even water.
The A & G was applied to an ulcer in the soft palate, water
was offered the child, but he refused. Finally, after much
coaxing with me out of the room, the mother finally got him
to drink some water, and he just drank it down without any
trouble at all. Then the lemon/lime was offered, and he
drank that down also greedily. I think in an 18-month-old
it would be very hard to call this a placebo effect by the
doctor putting something on. I don't think an 18-month-old
would be too susceptible to that. No other applications were
made. We just did the first application in the office. He
ate well for the next two days, but the sore was still there.
On the third afternoon the pain recurred a little bit, but by
the fourth day everything was all gone.
A 19-year-old girl had a severe canker ulcer on the lower
lateral mucosa of her lip for two weeks. She went to a local
emergency room, and the doctor there applied silver nitrate.
I would not advise this. That night her jaw swelled up. Her
entire jaw and lips swelled up, and I had to call in codeine
for her. The doctor that put on the silver nitrate didn't
feel the codeine was necessary. The next day she came in
the office with her swollen lower lip and jaw. A & G were
applied, and the pain went away almost immediately. That
night she was able to go to work. The pain and swelling were
gone; the entire ulcer was gone in three days. Three weeks
later, she had another small sore on her upper lip. She used
the A & G. Pain was gone in one day; ulcer in three days.
Another woman came into the office (I finally bought a better
camera. These photos were taken by my nurse's Polaroid.
I hope to have some better photographs in the future. For
this particular woman, a tape recorder would have done better
than a photograph.) She came in because her husband couldn't
understand her. She talked like this: (imitating garbled
speech). She had this sore on her tongue, and this was the
only way she could talk. Every time her tongue hit the roof
of her mouth it just hurt too much! I put the Atomidine on
followed with Glyco-Thymoline, and then she said in a normal
voice: "How often do I have to put this stuff on?" It was
just really unbelievable! She was applying the A & G three
days later because a little of the pain recurred and next day
no pain at all, and the sores on her tongue were completely
gone in six days.
A 38-year-old man with Bechaf's syndrome (This is one of
those rare syndromes that you have to look up in the books)
was referred to me by someone who knew about the Cayce
readings, and part of this syndrome is recurrent aphthous
ulcers in the mouth. Etiology is unknown. He's been on
maintenance Prednisolone [Prednisone?] and Cytoxan. Those
are pretty hefty drugs for canker sores, but he's got other
problems with his eyes and so forth. In the past, he would
have to increase the dosage of one or both medications when
the sores returned to his mouth plus using Kenalog in
Orabase. Since given A & G, he has not had to increase his
oral medication. He uses A & G about 30 minutes before meals
making the act of eating almost painless and whereas the
total duration of pain used to last eight to ten days prior
to A & G, now they last four to five days with the use of
A & G.
Gladys and Bill (McGarey) have told me that they've been
using Ipsab in the treatment of these canker sores, and I'd
be interested to know their comparable results. Again, I've
been reluctant to try anything else since A & G has been
used to successfully, and I again mention that whenever these
sores recur in the future in the same patients, the use of
A & G has shortened the time of resolution. Once the data's
all collected, I really hope to publish on this, and I would
encourage those of you here working with the Cayce readings
to use Ipsab and Atomidine and Glyco-Thymoline as I've
mentioned and tell us of your results perhaps through
the monthly bulletin that Bill sends out.
I want to warn you now that follow-up on these patients is
very, very difficult. When a treatment is successful, they
usually don't call back to tell you. If it's not successful,
you hear from them. In order to have the patients remember
how they're doing, you have to call them up every two or
three days to find out what's going on. If you ask them two
or three months later, they'll forget the exact timing of how
they got better.
Also, with regard to Ipsab - I feel like saying: "Will the
real Ipsab please stand up?" This is the liquid Ipsab we get
from Arvin Pharmacy, and this is the Ipsab that I got from
Ingram Pharmacy in Virginia Beach. It looks like something
like rock salt. The Ipsab we've been using is the liquid
Ipsab. Use the liquid Ipsab from Arvin and see what results
you get from that because this stuff (from Ingram Pharmacy)
is really terrible to use.
I should pass out two photographs (again, these are taken
with my nurse's Polaroid camera) of a young boy who had a
three-day history of severe aphthoustomatitis, and you'll see
in the first picture he's got three of these canker sores on
his lower lip and one on his tongue. He wasn't getting any
relief from glyoxide, was having difficulty eating. But
given A & G, he was able to eat normally by the following
day, and the sores were gone in four days. You can see in
the second film a very slight erythema in the areas where the
canker sores were. (As I say, I've got a better camera now,
an Instatech which takes close-ups. I hope to have some
better pictures on this to prove to some of our medical
colleagues how these spontaneous remissions are going.)
Edgar Cayce Readings © 1971, 1993, 1994, 1995 by the Edgar Cayce Foundation